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I have found several newsapper reports of my ancestor John Gleeson and an unsavoury partner in crime Jane Loveys in newspapers spanning about 30 years in Exeter Devon. I believe she married a John Day in 1875 as the reports then change to a Jane Day and John Gleeson instead! I would be grateful if anyone can spot her on a census in 1871 or earlier as I do not where she came from before and what she did (not sure I want to know!) I tried to see her on 1881 as Jane Day with John-but can see nothing.Cannot find John Gleeson in 1881 either-I wondered if they were at HM pleasure together. any light on her I'd be grateful to try and untangle her web.

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: John Gleeson
Date of Trial: 14 Oct 1867
Trial Year: 1867
Location of Trial: Devon, England
Sentence: Acquittal
Crime: larceny
Date of Execution or Release:


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: John Gleeson
Date of Trial: 14 Oct 1867
Trial Year: 1867
Location of Trial: Devon, England
Sentence: Imprisonment 3 calendar months hard labour
Crime: larceny
Date of Execution or Release:


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Jane Loveys
Date of Trial: 14 Oct 1867
Trial Year: 1867
Location of Trial: Devon, England
Sentence: Imprisonment - 12 calendar months hard labour
Crime: larceny after a previous conviction
Date of Execution or Release:

Oh-nice then! thought she might have been a prostitute-so at least theft is better than that! anything helps -thank you

I still can't see 1881-thanks anyway-maybe they didn't fill it in!

Have you found John Gleeson on any census???


I'm thinking that his accomplice of over 30 years might well live in the same place




sylvia

Have him on a few-in 1881 he married another accomplice-Mary Duffy-the 3 of them Mary,John and jane were all at eat others throats/etc for years. Not so sure he wasn't their pimp actually! they lived in and out of the pubs and punched each other from one week to the next according to local newspapers. But not sure where Jane came from-or went after she married in 1875-although she appears with John Gleeson-fighting-in later police notes/papers as jane Day well into the 1880's-but just not on a census. Not sure if she is on earlier ones as my library is shut at the moment.

could this be them in 1871 saying they are man and wife ?


1871

GLEESON, John Head M 22 1849 Surrey VIEW (Guildford) Hawker
GLEESON, Jane Wife F 26 1845 Devon VIEW (Hennock, Devon) Hawker
SPARKS, Lucy Lodger F 25 1846 Devon VIEW
MITCHEL, Sarah Lodger F 26 1845 Devon VIEW
MORRISH, Robert Lodger M 39 1832 Devon VIEW
HEAD, Emelia Lodger F 28 1843 Devon VIEW
WHITE, Sarah Lodger F 24 1847 Somerset VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
2063 Folio:
94 Page:
24

Registration District:
Exeter Sub District:
St Sidwell Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Mary, Major Municipal Borough:
Exeter Address:
Rack Street Stone's Court, St Mary, Major, Exeter County:
Devonshire

1851


LOVEYS, Thomas Head Married M 32 1819 Farm Labourer
Hennock
Devonshire VIEW
LOVEYS, Sarah Wife F 33 1818
Bridford
Devonshire VIEW
LOVEYS, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843
Hennock
Devonshire VIEW
>>>>>>LOVEYS, Jane Daughter F 6 1845
Hennock
Devonshire VIEW
LOVEYS, Thomas Son M 4 1847
Hennock
Devonshire VIEW
LOVEYS, Mary Daughter F 1 1850
Hennock
Devonshire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1870 Folio:
513 Page:
7

Registration District:
Newton Abbot Sub District:
Chudleigh Enumeration District:
5B Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Hennock Devon Municipal Borough:
Address:
Weigh House, Hennock Devon County:
Devonshire

yes thats them-the newspaper cutting I have says the address-stones court on it.and said they were 'co-habiting'.thanks thats one down-at least I know her ages roughly now-and he can't seem to decide whtehr he was born guildford,surrey or Cork,Ireland!

oh god-Have just realised that in 1871-John Gleeson is the Head-and all the lodgers are single girls-apart from one I have a nasty hunch my mum is right. I have just found Police indexes for jane Loveys-many charges-her occupation-a prostitute.Oh dear....

Have you seen this one?
The Old Golden Lion, Market Street....

A new landlord, Francis Sarrell did not improve the reputation of the place when he summoned William Stevens for abusive language, who was fined 10s or 14 days imprisonment in May 1862. In July 1866 the house was transferred from Mr Rattenbury to Mr J Phillips, as the previous landlord Mr Sarrell was declared bankrupt. 1868 was another year of petty crime at the Old Golden Lion with a case of stolen glasses, then John Gleeson was summoned for creating a disturbance and a further case of assault, all within a few months.

33,34,186 Sparkes Lucy Exeter prostitute
Police index charge book-one of the girls from 1871 I think (charges in 1872)

No I didn't have the assault one-which newspaper archive did you find that?-I only have my library ones -this is different

This is a brilliant site...............
www.exetermemories.co.uk
I just did a search using his surname on this site. I also tried Loveys, there is a mention of a William which could tie in.

Think this could be Sarah 'Mitchel' as adress is also the same as other census-great! poor poor girls

03 Aug Sarah Mitcham found in the rear of #15 J.Hosgood #15 John Hosgood Insp Woolcott D Bench 3months hard labour
prostitute Exeter premises of John as a rogue and an
Eveleigh a broker vagabond [notorious
of West St believed character]
for purpose of
felony & assault on
a police constable

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Exeter/Police6/ECA1862-1866.html


Index to Charge Book for December 1862 - January 1866

Heard Amelia Exeter prostitute


(one of the lodgers in the 1871 census !)

Oh god-thats 3 then-and Jane-oh deary dear! thankfulyy thats my hubby side -not mine!!! LOL thansk for everybodys help-must go to bed now

At least they are colourful

lol!!