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Charlotte Street, London.

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MotownGal

MotownGal Report 30 Jan 2011 22:43

Can any of you lovely people out there help me please?

I have a wedding certificate for my gt.grandparents. They were married after Banns at St Pancras Church in London. I know of this church, it is in Euston Road.

However, both parties were living at Charlotte Street BHR or BWR. The writing is a bit flowery.

Does anyone know what these initial stand for. I have previously tried to Google the initials but there is nothing forthcoming.

Hope someone can point me in the right direction.

Thank you.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jan 2011 22:47

What sort of time scale?

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 30 Jan 2011 22:48

Ooooh that was daft of me.

sorry

1861

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jan 2011 22:51

Is the marriage shown on Ancestry under London Marriages?

Would be useful to have look as struggling at the moment with the abbreviations

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 30 Jan 2011 22:54

I dont know. I have the actual marriage certificate.

William Dolby. Full Age.

Sarah Ann Powell. Minor

May 21st 1861 after Banns.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jan 2011 22:57

Yep on Ancestry so will have a look at the image

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jan 2011 23:02

Still baffled

William is in Charlotte St in 1861

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 30 Jan 2011 23:03

I like this question, my great-grandparents who married in Pancras two decades later were also living in Charlotte Street, lol!

I have never quite worked out which Charlotte Street it was, because I am not familiar enough with London registration districts at the time, but I have assumed it is the one that runs just west of Tottenham Cout Road for a short space, through Goodge Street, on a modern map? It seems I'm right then since that is very close to Euston Road?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 30 Jan 2011 23:05

Looks like B W R to me, but don't know if it's referring to a major road, or a district.

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 30 Jan 2011 23:07

Yes Charlotte Street is still there. I cut through it to get to Oxford Street. Talk about walking in my ancestors footsteps. There are hotels and restaurants down there now. There is also a Workhouse in the vicinity. I though it may be something to do with that.

William is on the 1861 census, at this address with his brother. But no parents.

Could it be some kind of hostel?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jan 2011 23:10

1861 givesMiddx, St Pancras, Grays Inn Lane Dist 16

Includes Brittannia St, Paradise St, Field St, Field Terrace etc

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 30 Jan 2011 23:12

In 1861 William is head of his own household at 23 Charlotte St, there is a second household in which Sarah Ann lives with her mother and stepfather, and a third household of Joseph Dolby and family who is William's brother?

It doesn't look like a hostel and all of the men are workers.

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 30 Jan 2011 23:13

Yep its a dooozy.

I have been pondering these initials for 15 years.
lol

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 30 Jan 2011 23:15

Chriss, yep that is right.

William is married/to be married to Sarah Ann Powell.

His brother Joseph is married to her sister.

Keep it in the family.
lol

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 30 Jan 2011 23:18

British Workingmens Residency?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 30 Jan 2011 23:26

Forgive me I went off on a frolic of my own. My great-grandparetns were living at 1 Charlotte when they married so I went looking at it in the census book, and it was "The Lord Brougham" occupied by a beer seller in 1861, now I have to look 20 years later, maybe it was still a public house after 1881 when my people lived there, and if so maybe that is where he was a cook.

BWR ............ no, I have no good guesses for you, myself, lol.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 30 Jan 2011 23:32

23 Charlotte in 1881 has more households but seems very middle class, a couple of mantle makers and others in the garment trade, a commercial clerk with a servant, and a naturalist and a retired naturalist (noo, not naturist, lol).

Nothing is coming to mind ....

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 31 Jan 2011 07:55

Thank you all. I had to go to bed halfway through last night. Work to go to.

These initial have driven me mad for so long just wondered if anyone else wanted to have a stab at it.

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 31 Jan 2011 21:02

Thanks to everyone who took the time to try and decipher and search for me.

I guess I will have to keep searching for the next 15 years.
lol

Thanks again.