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Harry
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26 Jan 2011 20:49 |
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For a friend. Alice Death was born in Sept quarter 1855. Any proof of parentage would be helpful. (possibly Alice, illegitimate. Alice married George Squirrel the following year apparently. Anything definite tying them together would be helpful (I know certs could be applied for, but not my family). I have seen them on the various census, 1861 being probably significant)
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26 Jan 2011 20:54 |
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where are they from please ?
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26 Jan 2011 20:56 |
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1881 England Census about George Squirrel Name: George Squirrel Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Father's name: George Squirrel Mother's name: Alice Squirrel Gender: Male Where born: Stowmarket, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Stowmarket County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Bury St Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Shoemaker (Journeyman) Registration district: Stow Sub-registration district: Stowmarket ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Squirrel 49 Alice Squirrel 48 Alice Death 25 Eliza Squirrel 23 George Squirrel 19 Morris Squirrel 17 John (Henry) Squirrel 16 Henry Squirrel 13 Rose Squirrel 11
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chrisa
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26 Jan 2011 21:05 |
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1861 England Census about Alice Death Name: Alice Death Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Coddenham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age George Death 56 Sarah Death 53 Susan Death 14 Alice Death 5
1871 England Census about Alice Death Name: Alice Death Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Fressingfield, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Coddenham Town: Coddenham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Robert Longe 76 Margret Delonge 72 Alice Death 15 Ellen Fenning 18 Frank Brewester 16
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KathleenBell
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26 Jan 2011 21:16 |
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This is Alice's grandparents in the 1851 census:-
Name: George Death Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Son Father's name: George Death Mother's name: Sarah Death Gender: M (Male) Where born: Copdock, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Coddenham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age
George Death 46 Sarah Death 44 George Death 27 John Death 19 Susan Death 4
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1797; Folio: 199; Page: 17; GSU roll: 207446.
You may have to buy her birth certificate to find Alice's parents.
Kath. x
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MaureeninNY
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26 Jan 2011 21:19 |
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?? 1861 census transcription details for: 3, Pleasant Row, Stowmarket RG number: RG09 Piece: 1147 Folio: 100 Page: 9
Reg. District: Stow Sub District: 3 Stowmarket Parish: Stowmarket Enum. District: 18 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 3, Pleasant Row, Stowmarket County: Suffolk
SQUIRRELL, George Head Married M 29 1832 Engine... Combs Suffolk SQUIRRELL, Alice Wife Married F 28 1833 Stowmarket Suffolk DEATH, Alice Daughter In Law F 5 1856 Scholar Stowmarket Suffolk SQUIRRELL, Reeve Son M 3 1858 Scholar Stowmarket Suffolk SQUIRRELL, Fanny Daughter F 0 (6M) 1861 Stowmarket Suffolk
Maureen
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chrisa
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26 Jan 2011 21:24 |
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1851 England Census about Sarah Death Name: Sarah Death Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Death Gender: F (Female) Where born: Beetley, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Coddenham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age George Death 46 Sarah Death 44 George Death 27 John Death 19 Susan Death 4
1841 England Census about Sarah Death Name: Sarah Death Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Coddenham Hundred: Bosmere and Claydon County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Death 35 Sarah Death 30 George Death 12 John Death 10
No sign of an older Alice with the family
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KathleenBell
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26 Jan 2011 21:24 |
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On the 1881 census Alice Death (born 1855) is described as George Squirrell's step-daughter, so she must be Alice Death snr.'s illegitimate daughter.
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MaureeninNY
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26 Jan 2011 21:31 |
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I think we have to be careful here. There are 2 Alice Death births that year. One in Hoxne reg and one in Stow. Obviously we want the one in Stow???
The one with her grandparents in 1861 doesn't appear to be the correct one.
I'm just wondering if Henry Purkis Death died? 1851 census transcription details for: Bury Street, Stowmarket
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1794 Folio: 637 Page: 1
Reg. District: Stow Sub District: Stowmarket Parish: Stowmarket Enum. District: 6E Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Bury Street, Stowmarket County: Suffolk MOTHERSOLE, Henry Head Married M 54 1797 Whitesmith Bury St Edmunds Suffolk MOTHERSOLE, Deborah Wife Married F 54 1797 Clear Starcher Wattisfield Suffolk MOTHERSOLE, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Clear Starcher Stowmarket Suffolk MOTHERSOLE, Michael Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Watchmake Stowmarket MOTHERSOLE, Thomas Visitor Married M 23 1828 Watchmaker Stowmarket Suffolk MOTHERSOLE, Elizabeth Visitor Married F 22 1829
Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%) Death Henry Purkis Stow 4a 1045 Mothersole Alice Stow 4a 1045
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Ozibird
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26 Jan 2011 21:39 |
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Alice Mothersole is the only Alice born c1833 found in Stowmarket in 1841 & 1851. I'd say Henry Death is the one.
Ozi
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Harry
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26 Jan 2011 21:46 |
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Many thanks for your efforts on this one.99% sure my original comments are the correct ones, but was looking for conformation, which obviously is not there except by birth certs.
Best wishes Haooy days
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Ozibird
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26 Jan 2011 21:54 |
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Here's a possibility for Henry.
record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973 groom's name: James Death bride's name: Mary Ann Purkess marriage date: 03 Aug 1824 marriage place: Combs,Suffolk,England indexing project (batch) number: M13235-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 989537
1841 England Census Name: Henry Death Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Combs Hundred: Stow County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: none recorded
Registration district: Stow Sub-registration district: Stowmarket Household Members: Name Age James Death 45 Mary Death 45 Mary Death 10 Henry Death 10
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Ozibird
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26 Jan 2011 21:58 |
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1851 England Census Name: Henry Death Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Son Father's name: James Death Mother's name: Mary Death Gender: M (Male) Where born: Combs, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Combs County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Bildestone Rd
Occupation: Ag lab
Registration district: Stow Sub-registration district: Walsham Household Members: Name Age James Death Snr 55 - Ag lab; Hitcham, Suffolk Mary Death 59 - Hitcham, Suffolk Henry Death 20
James Death Jnr is on the same page.
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MaureeninNY
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26 Jan 2011 22:03 |
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Wonder why we don't see a likely death for him??? (I'm getting quite dizzy with all these Deaths,deaths,births,etc.!)
Parish Records Collection - baptism Day: 13
Month: Apr
Year: 1830
Forenames: Henry Purkes
Surname: Death
Fathers Forenames: James
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Abode: Upper Town, Combs
Place: Stowmarket
Description: Baptist
County: Suffolk
Country: England
Record source: Suffolk Baptism Index (part 2)
Maureen
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Kay????
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26 Jan 2011 22:54 |
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--Fressingfield Sufforlk
Bapt of Alice Death.
29th July.1855------may equate to a birth appearing in September quarter registration .
Parents.
George &Mary Death.
IGI= www.familysearch.org.
is extracted from parish register.
a George Death is living with parents in 1861,image shows a widower ,Blacksmith journeyman and age 33.
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MaureeninNY
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26 Jan 2011 23:27 |
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Right,Kay,but that'll be the "other" Alice-bornHoxne reg disrtrict. If Harry is correct,then it's the other Alice we wanted.
I suppose it's too late to ask who Alice (the daughter) married??
Maureen
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Harry
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27 Jan 2011 00:03 |
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Thanks to all. Some very good info there which I will pass on. Very much appreciate all your time and effort.
Happydays
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