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Would someone be kind enough to see if they can find Beatrice and Ellen in 1911 for me please?
I have the rest of the family, who are living at Proud Cottages, Marsh Green, Edenbride ... but I don't have Beatrice or Ellen.

Ellen Bertha Tatnall was born in Edenbridge 1885. I cannot see a marriage or death for her before 1911.

Beatrice Lucy was born in Edenbridge 1887. There is a marriage recorded with wither John F Peck or Charles A Smith in Eastbourne 1911.

Any help locating Beatrice and Ellen greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Gail

1891 census
TATNALL, George Head Married M 33 1858 Agricultural Labourer
Edenbridge
Kent VIEW
TATNALL, Eliza Wife Married F 29 1862
Edenbridge
Kent VIEW
TATNALL, Albert T Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Grimstead
Sussex VIEW
TATNALL, Ellen B Daughter F 5 1886
Edenbridge
Kent VIEW
TATNALL, Beatrice Daughter F 3 1888
Edenbridge
Kent VIEW
TATNALL, William A E Son M 1 1890
Edenbridge
Kent VIEW
TATNALL Daughter F 0 (14D) 1891
Edenbridge
Kent VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
675 Folio:
11 Page:
16

Registration District:
Sevenoaks Sub District:
Penshurst Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Edenbridge

Civil Parish:
Edenbridge Municipal Borough:
Address:
Marsh Green, Edenbridge, Marsh Green County:
Kent

Ellen Bertha Tatnall

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Edenbridge, Kent, England
parents: George Tatnall, Eliza

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Ellen Bertha Tatnall
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 08 Nov 1885
baptism/christening place: Edenbridge, Kent, England
father's name: George Tatnall
mother's name: Eliza
indexing project (batch) number: I04615-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1851041

Beatrice Lucy Tatnall

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Edenbridge, Kent, England
parents: George Tatnall, Eliza

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Beatrice Lucy Tatnall
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 09 Oct 1887
baptism/christening place: Edenbridge, Kent, England
father's name: George Tatnall
mother's name: Eliza
indexing project (batch) number: I04615-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

there is this marraige for Beatrice L
Name: TATNALL, Beatrice L
Registration District: Help Eastbourne
County: Sussex
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 2B
Page No: Help 196

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Name: Eustelle M M J Givron
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Eastbourne
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b

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Eustelle M M J Givron 1911 Eastbourne Sussex, East Sussex
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John F Peck 1911 Eastbourne Sussex, East Sussex
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Charles A Smith 1911 Eastbourne Sussex, East Sussex
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Beatrice L Tatnall 1911 Eastbourne Sussex, East Sussex

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1911 census transcription details for: 54 Royal Parade Eastbourne
RG14PN4813 RG78PN208 RD71 SD2 ED1 SN167


Reg. District: Eastbourne Sub District: Eastbourne
Parish: Eastbourne Enum. District: 1
Address: 54 Royal Parade Eastbourne
County: Sussex
BIRD, Henry Ron Head Married M 57 1854 Private Means None Chessingdon Surrey
BIRD, Louisa Wife Married F 52 1859 London
BIRD, Leslie Son Single M 16 1895 Scholar Gloster
TADNALL, Beatrice Servant Single F 23 1888 Servants Cook Sussex
SEYMOUR, Evelyn Servant Single F 15 1896 Servants Housemaid Groombridge Sussex

Maureen

There are no births recorded on FreeBMD for a Peck with mmn of Tatnall, but there is one for Smith in Sevenoaks, so that may answer who Beatrice married (Charles A Smith).

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1912
Smith George H Tatnall Sevenoaks 2a 1582

Ellen appears to be in service in 1901:

ROLFE, Walter J Head Married M 38 1863 Farmer Waltham Kent
ROLFE, Alice S Wife Married F 38 1863 Bonnington Kent
ROLFE, Walter J L Son M 6 1895 Bilsington Kent
ROLFE, Alice D B Daughter F 2 1899 Edenbridge Kent
FRANKS, Alice A Servant Single F 15 1886 Nurse (Domestic) Bonnington Kent
>>TATNELL, Helen Servant Single F 15 1886 General Servant (Domestic) Edenbridge Kent
CHITTENDEN, Stephen Servant Single M 30 1871 Poultryman Aldington Kent

Registration District: Dartford Sub District: Farningham Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical Parish: Kingsdown St Edmund's

Civil Parish: Kingsdown Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, (Pells Farm), Pells Lane Off London Road, Kingsdown
County: Kent

Thanks everyone

Maddie I had the 1891 and marriage details - the 1911 is the one causing me difficulties - thanks for taking the time to look for me

Ann of Green Gables thanks for the Christening information

Maureen - thats great re: Beatrice - it ties in with the possible marriage in Eastbourne in 1911 too. Thanks

MarieCeleste - I didn't think of searching of possible children for both marriages that way. Thanks for that

If anyone can find records on 1911 census for Ellen I will be eternally grateful!!

Greatly appreciated everyone

Gail

there are births for givron / peck so Smith marraige seems likely

Ellen seems to have escaped somehow! As you say,I don't see a marriage or death that looks close.

Maureen

This is just a "throw it in the pot" thing:

Births Dec 1926
Tatnall Joyce M Tatnall Sevenoaks 2a 1279

If the surname and mothers name are the same it implies the mother wasn't married. Might be a bit old for Ellen to have a child?

Agree with Maureen, Ellen is being elusive.

It could be possible she lived with someone and assumed their name without marrying.

only 1911 for ellen tatnall
TATNELL, John James Head Married M 24 1887 Labourer General Ratcliff E VIEW
TATNELL, Ellen Wife Married
3 years F 25 1886 Book Binder Borough S E VIEW
TATNELL, John James Son M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Saint George E VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1568 Reference:
RG14PN1568 RG78PN55 RD20 SD2 ED21 SN261

Registration District:
Stepney Sub District:
Limehouse Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Limehouse

Address:
4 Gill Place County:
London

don't think it is her sorry

These are the only 2 Ellens born 1885 in Edenbridge that I can find in 1911:

DEACON, Edward Head Married M 49 1862 Building Surveyor Newington London VIEW
DEACON, Ellen Wife Married
22 years F 47 1864 None Chelsea London VIEW
BAYFIELD, Freida Visitor Single F 21 1890 Teacher Of Drawing Fulham London VIEW
SHORT, Ida Servant Single F 21 1890 Domestic Servant Cook Edenbridge Kent VIEW
SMITH, Ellen Servant Single F 26 1885 Domestic Servant Housemaid Edenbridge Kent VIEW
BAYFIELD, Constance Visitor Single F 18 1893 Worker In Art Needlework High Ycombe Bucks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3471 Reference:
RG14PN3471 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED9 SN276

Registration District:
Kingston Sub District:
Wimbledon Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Wimbledon

Address:
30 Leopold Road Wimbledon County:
Surrey

(Hm - Smith's a nice common name if you're trying to hide!)

and

SKINNER, Leonard Head Married
6 years M 27 1884 Blacksmith Kent Cudham VIEW
SKINNER, Ellen Wife Married F 26 1885 Kent Edenbridge VIEW
SKINNER, Hilda Daughter F 5 1906 Kent Downe VIEW
SKINNER, Maude Daughter F 3 1908 Kent Downe VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3692 Reference:
RG14PN3692 RG78PN139 RD42 SD3 ED5 SN17

Registration District:
Bromley Sub District:
Orpington Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Cudham

Address:
Leaves Green Keston County:
Kent

I've got to go now, but perhaps someone could check out who Leonard Skinner married 6 years earlier?

oh ellen, ellen, ellen!!!!

Thanks everyone ... will probably come across her when we are not looking so hard.

Thanks again for all your help - much appreciated
Gail

looks like it wasn't this Ellen
Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
Lomas Arthur Bromley 2a 1022 Scan available - click to view
Skinner Leonard John Bromley 2a 1022 Scan available - click to view
Smith Janet Bromley 2a 1022 Scan available - click to view
Wickenden Ellen Mary Bromley 2a 1022 Scan available - click to view