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I'm looking for Robert Hugill b 1864 on later census he gives his place of birth as Norton / Malton Yorkshire

I have him in 1881-1911
I'm trying to find his parents

Thanks

Mary

Shown as a boarder in 1871:

KITSON, Jane Head F 59 1812 Yorkshire
KITSON, Mary Daughter F 13 1858 Yorkshire
>HUGILL, Robert Boarder M 7 1864 Yorkshire (Malton)
KITSON, John Grandson M 3 1868 Yorkshire

Registration District: Malton Sub District: Rillington Enumeration District: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Scampston Municipal Borough:

Address: Raily Gate House, East, Scampston County: Yorkshire

ADDED: There is also a Robert Hugill in Stockton, which includes Norton.

The birth certificate will give you the name of his mother and his father if known.


Births Dec 1863 (>99%)
HUGILL Robert Malton 9d 324

Norton in Stockton is different from Norton and Malton in Yorkshire.

Kath. x

It's strange to be a boarder at age 7! but that must be him as he is still there in 1881 and later as a railway worker

Thanks though will have to send for cert.

Mary

There is also this birth, which would cover Norton:

Births Sep 1864
HUGILL Robert William Stockton 10a 43

Mary, I notice you say later census gives birthplace as Norton/Malton.

Malton is quite some way from Norton -are you sure you're not getting these two Roberts mixed up?

EDIT: Well, I never knew there was a Norton in Yorkshire as well. I've learned something!

Norton and Malton in Yorkshire are often referred to together as "Norton and Malton". I think they are on either side of the River Derwent.

Kath. x

Thanks for that Kath!

Mary - sorry if I confused you.

The only Hugill I can find in the 1861 census with a Malton connection is this one:-


Name: William Hugill
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Gender: Male
Where born: Malton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Kilham
Ecclesiastical parish: York
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Driffield
Sub-registration district: Langtoft
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members:
Name Age
John Staveley 45
Margaret Staveley 24
John Simpson 21
Jemima Danby 17
Ann Hod 27
Catherine Bell 16
Hannah Normanton 18
George Boswell 35
John Bennett 37
John Harrison 18
Robert Nappie 18
David Brown 17
William Harrison 16
Henry Dorkin 16
William Baker 15
William Hugill 19
Thomas Walker 32
Henry Vickerman 14
George Hopper 12

He is unmarried but there is this marriage i n York registration district:-

Name: William Hugill
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: York
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 49

I thought this could POSSIBLY be Robert's father but nothing to confirm this. You would really need to buy the Malton birth certificate.

Kath. x

who did Robert marry?


only there is this marriage on the new familysearch site, which has a Robetr Hugill b. 1863 marrying Margaret Peacock .... and no father is shown for him


and an unmarried mother could be the explanation for him being a boarder from a child.


record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Robert Hugill
groom's birth date: 1863
groom's age: 23
bride's name: Margaret Peacock
bride's birth date: 1866
bride's age: 20
marriage date: 19 May 1886
marriage place: York, York, England
bride's father's name: David Peacock
indexing project (batch) number: I03647-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470678




sylvia

This looks as though it could be that Robert and margaret, on the 1901 Census ... but Robert says he was born in Knapton on both this and the 1891 Census.

1901 Census

Name: Robert Hugill
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret Hugill
Gender: Male
Where born: Knapton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Escrick
Ecclesiastical parish: Escrick St Helen
Town: Escrick
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Escrick

Robert Hugill 37
Margaret Hugill 34
John H Hugill 14 b.ca 1887
Arthur J Hugill 11
Walter Hugill 9
George E Hugill 5
David A Hugill 1





sylvia

Knapton and Norton are both in the Malton area according to Genuki.


"KNAPTON, (East and West), in the parish of Wintringham, and wapentake of Buckrose; 1½ miles NNW. of Wintringham, 7 miles NE. of Malton. The river Derwent at this place is navigable for small vessels. Population, 206."


NORTON, a parish in the wapentake of Buckrose; ½ mile SE. of Malton. The church (see Churches for photograph) is a perpetual curacy, in the patronage of Mr. Ewbank, of which the Rev. John Richardson is the incumbent. At the foot, of the bridge, between this place and Malton was, pretty early in the time of Henry II., a hospital, dedicated to St. Nicholas, founded by Roger de Flamvill, and placed under the government of the canons of Malton. Population, 1017.

There is actually another Norton in Yorkshire in the Doncaster area.

Christine

Thank you for carrying on the detective work.

Norton and malton are practically the same place ..you just walk across the bridge over the river to get from one to the other.

I was thinking along the lines of Robert being the child of a single person.
Either a widower (in which case the William mentioned would be a distinct possibility) or an illigitimate child of a female unmarried Hugill
being looked after while she was away for work?

Found these christened in Knapton Near Malton
John 1846 by Richard and Jane
Alice 1850 by richard and Jane
Thomas 1844 by Richard and Jane

William 1842 by william and mary
Charles 1844 by william and mary

Daniel 1859 by elizabeth
Thomas 1861 by Elizabeth.

Maryb

EDIT Elizabeth 1840 Knapton is the daughter of Richard 1807 thornton Yorks and Jane1807 Thornton ,she is with them in 1861 along with her sons Daniel and thomas
She had a brother Robert Hugill born 1836.

Elizabeth Hugill 1840 married 1865 in malton to robert Cass born 1841 Caske Yorks
They went on to have quite a few children.
1871 there was with them in Rillington D1 > 4 john Hugill 1848 her brother.
1881 there is Alice Hartley who I think is Alice hugill 1850 her sister.

Richard Hugill 1807 died 1866 and wife Jane 1807 died 1869.

Thomas Hugill died Malton 1862.maybe Elizabeth's son as she had another thomas when married to robert Cass.

Maryb

Robert was lodging with Jane Kitson,she was married to richard Kitson born 1804 died 1871 he was born new malton.
He had a sister Jane Kitson 1808 New malton.

Could this be the Jane who married Richard Hugill??
So that could explain Robert being at jane Kitsons as this would be his Aunt,but there again why isn't he with his mum.

Maybe he new husband didn't want Robert and Daniel.

Maryb

There are trees on here with Jane Kitson 1808 maybe its worth dropping them a line.

The next two villages east of Malton and Norton are Settrington and Rillinton.Both of which have a large Hugill presence in the 1891 and 1881 census.Maybe a link,maybe not.