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Ozibird Request Review Yesterday
I'm still trying to find 1851 which would link Charles.

Ozi

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This is probably Charles.


IGI Individual Record
John Charles Bianchi
Christening: 28 SEP 1845 St John, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Parents:
Father: John Bianchi
Mother: Ann

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: C042386


???
Births Jun 1845
BIANCHI John Newcastle Tyne 25 372

Ozibird Request Review Yesterday
This looks like Frank's christening.

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Franciscus Bianki
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Jun 1869
baptism/christening place: St. Bede, Jarrow, Durham, England
birth date: 29 May 1869
father's name: Joannis Bianki
mother's name: Anna Standwich Bianki <<<<<<<<
indexing project (batch) number: C01028-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2046479



Births Sep 1869
Bianchi Francis S. Shields 10a 625





1851 England Census
Name: Ann Standage
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Standage
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Drypool
Town: Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 22 John St

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Sutton
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Standage 50 - Mariner
William H Standage 19
Ann Standage 15

Ozibird Request Review Yesterday
Possibles:

Marriages Mar 1869
Bianchi John S Shields 10a 719
Standage Ann S Shields 10a 719
(Same district as Frank was registered)
I suggest you get Frank's birth cert.



Deaths Mar 1882
Bianchi John 65 Tynemouth 10b 125

david Request Review Edit Delete Yesterday
Many thanks to Tempest, Ozibird and Cathy. You've given me a lot to work on. I was a little concerned at one point because I have a birthdate for my great grandfather as 1869 not 1870. However, the Christenning details (thanks Ozibird!) indicate his birthdate as 1869 and there always seems to be estimated years indicated in census details.

If you don't mind, I may be calling on all of your expertise later!

Best Regards

David



tempest Request Review Yesterday
Hi David

You're most welcome, pleasure to help.

You're right, the census ages are sometimes out by a year or two either way (oh and some people tell fibs on them too!)

Please do let us know how you get on and please feel free to shout if you need any further help.

Cathy Request Review Yesterday
Hope it helps David.....good luck and let us know if we can help again.

Kind regards,

Cathy

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British Army Service Records 1760-1913
First name(s): Frank

Last name: BIANCHI

Calculated year of birth: 1869

Parish of birth: Jarrow

Town of birth: Jarrow

County of birth: Durham

Age at attestation: 21 years 2 months

Attestation date: 9 July 1890

Attestation corps: King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment)

Attestation soldier number: 2998

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 4354 / 100

There are 6 images available for this soldier


(on Find My Past, mentions wife Elizabeth Ann Jobson, married 1899, 2 brothers Harry and Thomas as next of kin. )

Chris :)







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The two brothers, Harry and Thomas are probably these two:
BIANCHI, Henry M 11 1860
BIANCHI, John T M 5 1866,
who are with the family in the 1871 that tempest found.

Happy hunting,

Ozi

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Frank's wife and son in 1901.
1901 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Ann Bianchi [Elizabeth Ann Jobson]
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Ann Jobson
Gender: Female
Where born: Pelton Fell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 36 Vine St

Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Jobson 49 - Married
Elizabeth Ann Bianchi 24
George Bianchi 1 - grandson;
John Allisone 39 - Lodger
George Allisone 17 - Lodger

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???
Births Sep 1899
Bianchi George Tynemouth 10b 303
Deaths Dec 1902
Bianchi George 3 Tynemouth 10b 128

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: BIANCHI, Frank
Address: 38 Thames St East Wallsend On-Tyne
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BIANCHI, Frank Head Married M 42 1869 Boilermaker Plater Durham Jarrow
BIANCHI, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married12 years F 34 1877 Durham Pelton Fell
BIANCHI, Lilian Daughter F 9 1902 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Charles Son M 8 1903 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Frances Daughter F 6 1905 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Fredrick Son M 4 1907 Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, John Son M 2 1909 Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Frank Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Northumberland Wallsend

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RG number: RG14 Piece: 30710 Reference:
RG14PN30710 RG78PN1757 RD559 SD1 ED4 SN107
Registration District: Tynemouth Sub District: Wallsend
Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Wallsend


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1901 census - household transcription
Person: BIANCHI, Frank
Address: Stable Row Bigges Main, Longbenton, Bigges Main Little Benton
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BIANCHI, Thomas Head Married M 36 1865 Labourer In Shipyard London
BIANCHI, Margaret Wife Married F 29 1872 Helburn New Town Durham
BIANCHI, Mary Ann Daughter F 7 1894 Wallsend Northumberland
BIANCHI, William H Son M 5 1896 Long Benton Northumberland
BIANCHI, Frank Son M 2 1899 Long Benton Northumberland
BIANCHI, John Thomas Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Long Benton Northumberland
BIANCHI, Frank Brother Married M 32 1869 Plater In Shipyard
Jarrow on Tyne Durham
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RG number: RG13 Piece: 4808 Folio: 10 Page: 12
Registration District: Tynemouth Sub District: Longbenton Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical Parish: Longbenton St Bartholomews
Civil Parish: Longbenton

Ozibird Request Review Yesterday
Ann is born in Hull on 1871.

1861 England Census
Name: Ann Bianche
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston Upon Hull
Civil Parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda Chapelry
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 14 Ivy Street

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bianche 39
Ann Bianche 24
George Bianche 3
William Bianche 1

I can't work out John's occupation. It looks like Iron Shop Builder.

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1841 England Census
Name: John Biancha
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: St John
Hundred: Tindale (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: Westgate St

Occupation: Smith

Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
Household Members:
Name Age
John Biancha 20
Ann Biancha 20

I've included further details/threads, courtesy of other very helpful people on GR . This is in relation to my question: Trying to find the mother and father of Frank Bianchi who I think may be my great grandfather. I have looked at the 1881 census and i've included it in this message. It looks like he is being looked after by his elder brother whom I don't know the name of. Is anyone able to help? The details on the 1881 census for my possible great grandfather read:-


Name Francis Bianchi
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Relationship to Head of Household Brother
Occupation Scholar
Address 124, Fisher Street
District Tynemouth, Longbenton
Parish Longbenton
Administrative County Northumberland
Birth Place Jarrow
Birth County Durham


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1881 census - household transcription
Person: BIANCHI, Francis
Address: 124, Fisher St, Longbenton

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BIANCHI, Charles Head Married M 36 1845 Angle Iron Smith Shipyard Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
BIANCHI, Mary Wife Married F 28 1853 Gateshead Durham
BIANCHI, Robert Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Sunderland Durham
BIANCHI, Charles Son Single M 4 1877 Barrow Cumberland
BIANCHI, George Son Single M 2 1879 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
BIANCHI, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 0 1881 Walker Northumberland
BIANCHI, John Father Widower M 62 1819 Angle Iron Smith Shipyard Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
BIANCHI, Francis Brother Single M 11 1870 Scholar Jarrow Durham

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1871 England Census
Name: Charles Bianchi
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Roseann Bianchi
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Pallion St Luke
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Bianchi 26
Roseann Bianchi 27
John Bianchi 53 - lodger; Smith; Newcastle, Northumberland

tempest Request Review Yesterday
1871 census - household transcription
Person: BIANCHI, Frank
Address: 20 Charles Street, Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow, Jarrow

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

BIANCHI, Ann Wife F 34 1837 Yorkshire (Original says Hull)
BIANCHI, George Son M 14 1857 County Durham (Original says Stockton)
BIANCHI, Henry M 11 1860 County Durham (Original says Hartlepool)
BIANCHI, John T M 5 1866 London
BIANCHI, Frank M 0 1871 County Durham (original says 11 months old born Jarrow)

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I certainly will. Thanks again!

David

Let us know how you go with the birth certificate, David.
It will be good to find out if we were on the right track.

Many thanks to Sylvia, Lynne and Chris.

I have ordered my Grandfather Frederick Bianchi's birth certificate at the cost of £9.25 from site recommended and should recieve this next Friday the 28th. This will confirm the forenames of my paternal great grandfather and surname of my paternal great grandmother- whom I am inclined to think may be Jobson: but i will have to be patient with this! It is strange that my Nanna (when still alive) informed me that my grandfather's dad was a tram driver in Wallsend and was called Albert. It may be that he had a middle name called Albert and this will show up on the birth certificate and he may have changed his occupation later. After looking at the dates related to a Royal navy long service award, it couldn't match the birth date of my paternal great grandfather, because my grandfather Frederick Bianchi was born in 1906, but I am not ruling this out as a possible later link: so thank you Chris!

I didn't think I would get this far and my Nanna may have sent me on a wild goose chase. I am beginning to wonder, if this is connected to the possibility of my potential great grandfater and grandmother having to get married in 1899 because she was pregant with George who unfortunately and very sadly died approx two years later. If they did have to get married it would have been quite a talking point at the time. However having said this, my great grandfather made a good and honourable thing to get married and it looks like they had a complete family.

Naval Records are held at National Archives, Kew,
Some are able to be downloaded for £3.50, from their website, under Documents Online.

Chris :)

Marriages Sep 1891
Bianchi John Thomas Tynemouth 10b 358
Bianchie John Thomas Tynemouth 10b 358
Philipson Margaret Tynemouth 10b 358

Could this be brothers, Thomas and Frank (see 1901 census above) in 1871 - the birth places match and Thomas could actually be John Thomas?

BIANCHI, Ann Wife F 34 1837 Yorkshire
BIANCHI, George Son M 14 1857 County Durham
BIANCHI, Henry M 11 1860 County Durham
BIANCHI, John T M 5 1866 London VIEW
BIANCHI, Frank M 0 1871 County Durham
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5040 Folio:
69 Page:
31

Registration District:
South Shields Sub District:
Shields, South Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow Municipal Borough:
Address:
Charles Street, Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow, Jarrow County:
Durham

UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972
about Francis Albert Bianchi
Name: Francis Albert Bianchi
Medal or Award: RN Long Service and Good conduct Medal
Service Year: 1940-1944
Ship Name: Queen Charlotte

(awarded 1944, gives number, PO P/JX127506)

Chris :)

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Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Bianchi Francis A Tynemouth 10b 201



Death...

Name: Francis Albert Bianchi
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 0798

George must be the child who has died in the 1911 census -

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
Bianchi George Tynemouth 10b 303
Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
Bianchi George 3 Tynemouth 10b 128

Another child born after 1911 -
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Bianchi Thomas Jobson Tynemouth 10b 397

1901 census -
JOBSON, Ann Head Married F 49 1852
Wallbottle
Northumberland
BIANCHI, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Married F 24 1877
Pelton Fell
Durham
BIANCHI, George Grand Son Single M 1 1900
Walker
Northumberland
ALLISON, John Lodger Married M 39 1862 Coal Miner
Aspatria
Cumberland
ALLISON, George Lodger Single M 17 1884 Coal Miner
Aspatria
Cumberland
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4796 Folio:
60 Page:
14

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Wallsend Enumeration District:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Luke

Civil Parish:
Wallsend Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Vine Street, Wallsend County:
Northumberland

1901 census -
BIANCHI, Thomas Head Married M 36 1865 Labourer In Shipyard
London
BIANCHI, Margaret Wife Married F 29 1872
Helburn New Town
Durham
BIANCHI, Mary Ann Daughter F 7 1894
Wallsend
Northumberland
BIANCHI, William H Son M 5 1896
Long Benton
Northumberland
BIANCHI, Frank Son M 2 1899
Long Benton
Northumberland
BIANCHI, John Thomas Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901
Long Benton
Northumberland
BIANCHI, Frank Brother Married M 32 1869 Plater In Shipyard
Jarrow on Tyne
Durham
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4808 Folio:
10 Page:
12

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Longbenton Enumeration District:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Longbenton St Bartholomews

Civil Parish:
Longbenton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Stable Row Bigges Main, Longbenton, Bigges Main Little Benton County:
Northumberland

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
Bianchi Francis Tynemouth 10b 342
Jobson Elizabeth Ann Tynemouth 10b 342

Here's the 1911 census that Sylvia was referring to earlier -

BIANCHI, Frank Head Married M 42 1869 Boilermaker Plater Durham Jarrow
BIANCHI, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married
12 years F 34 1877 Durham Pelton Fell
BIANCHI, Lilian Daughter F 9 1902 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Charles Son M 8 1903 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Frances Daughter F 6 1905 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Fredrick Son M 4 1907 Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, John Son M 2 1909 Northumberland Wallsend VIEW
BIANCHI, Frank Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Northumberland Wallsend
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30710 Reference:
RG14PN30710 RG78PN1757 RD559 SD1 ED4 SN107

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Wallsend Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Wallsend

Address:
38 Thames St East Wallsend On-Tyne County:
Northumberland

7 children, 6 lived, 1 died

The only Albert I can find was born in Islington, London, and lived in Essex in 1901.





sylvia

This looks like the marriage for the frank and Elizabeth Ann shown in the above 1911 Census

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)

Bianchi Francis Tynemouth 10b 342
Jobson Elizabeth Ann Tynemouth 10b 342



and this is another possible birth for that family

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)

Bianchi Thomas Jobson Tynemouth 10b 397





sylvia

a free search of the 1911 Census www.fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk/ shows:-

HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI CHARLES M 1903 8 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI ELIZABETH ANN F 1877 34 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FRANCES F 1905 6 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FRANK M 1869 42 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FRANK M 1911 2 MONTHS Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FREDRICK M 1907 4 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI JOHN M 1909 2 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI LILIAN F 1902 9 Tynemouth Northumberland


You can buy credits to look at the actual image. That will tell you the relationships between the people listed


I note there is NO Albert shown here




sylvia