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I am trying to find any information on Isabella who married Peter Abbott (1846 - 1925 ) in Newport M. in 1869.
Their children were :- Peter ( 1871-1881 ), William (1871 ), Elizabeth ( 1874 ), Alice ( my grandma 1878 - 1957 ) , John ( 1880 ), Ann Jane ( 1883 - 1963 ).
we have no clues to parents or siblings, and would be very grateful for any help. Thank you.

I cant see any census for them, you may need to buy their marriage cert

This appears to be them. Not Peter as her husband though.

1881

ABBOTT, William Head Married M 43 1838 Labourer Bricksetter
Penwortham
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Isabella Wife Married F 35 1846 H Work
Edinburgh
Scotland VIEW
ABBOTT, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Fermanagh
Ireland VIEW
ABBOTT, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Belfast
Ireland VIEW
ABBOTT, Alice Daughter Single F 3 1878
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, John Son Single M 1 1880
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4228 Folio:
80 Page:
10

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
Trinity Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Address:
39, Everton Gardens, Preston County:
Lancashire


1891

READER, Lawrence Head Married M 64 1827 Loomer
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
READER, Margt Wife Married F 49 1842 Winder
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
HARTLEY, Margt Boarder Single F 34 1857 Weaver
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBATT, Bella Boarder Widow F 45 1846 Servant
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBATT, Eliz Daughter Single F 17 1874 Doffer
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBATT, Alice Daughter F 13 1878 Tenter
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBATT, John Son M 10 1881 H Timer At Foundry
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBATT, A Daughter F 1 1890
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3439 Folio:
38 Page:
12

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
St Peter Enumeration District:
22 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Saints

Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Preston Address:
19, Crown Street, Preston County:
Lancashire


1901

ABBOTT, Isabella Head Widow F 53 1848
Scotland Paisley VIEW
ABBOTT, Alice Daughter Single F 23 1878 Cotton Weaver
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Ann J Daughter Single F 18 1883 Cotton Rover
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Isabella Grand Daughter F 6 1895
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Annie Grand Daughter F 2 1899
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3952 Folio:
42 Page:
20

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
St Peter Enumeration District:
26 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Saints

Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Address:
70, Crown Street, Preston County:
Lancashire


1911


BIBBY, Alexander Head Married M 29 1882 Scavenger Lancashire Preston VIEW
BIBBY, Annjane Wife Married F 28 1883 Lancashire Preston VIEW
BIBBY, Maryjane Daughter F 4 1907 Lancashire Preston VIEW
BIBBY, Isabella Daughter F 3 1908 Lancashire Preston VIEW
ABBOTT, Isabella Boarder Widow F 65 1846 Lancashire Preston VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25293 Reference:
RG14PN25293 RG78PN1447 RD476 SD3 ED20 SN21

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
North Preston Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Preston

Address:
21 Crown St Preston County:
Lancashire

Daughter Ann Jane had had 3 children, but 1 had died.

This could possibly be Peter with his parents. A lot of the names seem to be carried through to his family. Can't find an 1871 with him and Isabella which would tie them all together.

1851

ABBOTT, William Head M 41 1810 Warehouseman
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Alice Wife F 40 1811
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Ann Daughter F 20 1831 Frame Tenter Cotton
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Joseph Son M 18 1833 Cotton Striper
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, William Son M 16 1835 Power Loom Weaver Cotton
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Mary Daughter F 14 1837 Cotton Carder
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Peter Son M 12 1839 Scholar
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Alice Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Paul Son M 8 1843
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1845 At Home
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, John Son M 2 1849 At Home
Walton Le Dale
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2266 Folio:
167 Page:
67

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
Preston Enumeration District:
2GG Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Thomas

Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Preston Address:
Higginson Street, Preston County:
Lancashire


1841

ABBOTT, William M 30 1811 Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Alice F 30 1811 Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Joseph M 8 1833 Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Hannah F 10 1831 Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, William M 6 1835 Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Mary F 4 1837 Lancashire VIEW
ABBOTT, Peter M 2 1839 Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
504 Book/Folio:
13/32 Page:
5

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
Walton Le Dale Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Blackburn Municipal Borough:
Address:
Walton Factory Or Riding's Farm, Blackburn, Walton Le Dale County:
Lancashire

WOW, thank you so much ***alviegal***, its amazing that in the 50's the family were still spread about crown street!!, Strange that her birthplace is Edinburgh and Paisley, what can i do to find which one is right ?

I think you need to purchase the marriage certificate to establish their father's names before we can proceed with any certainty.

liz

will do that, thank you for the help, :)))))))))))))))))))

does seem to be her

1851 Scotland Census about Isabella Rutherford
Name: Isabella Rutherford
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Parish Number: 685/1
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Stephen
County: Midlothian
Address: 55 Cumberland Street
ED: 7
Page: 7 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 24
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_180
Household Members:
Name Age
Archibald Menzies 43
Mary Rutherford 35
Elizabeth Rutherford 3
Janet Ritchie 48
Isabella Rutherford 4

proof that Isabella maiden name was Rutherford (that is if that Preston census is definitely your family)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1877
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ABBOTT Alice Preston Preston RUTHERFORD PRES/240/6

have you got any birth or marriage certificates for any of the children as you seem fairly convinced their father was Peter. Where did you find all the childrens names and lifespan please

you say your Alice was born in 1878 and the only Alice born in Preston area was born in 1877

Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
ABBOTT Peter Newport M. 11a 274
NICHOLAS William Newport Mon 11a 274
Richards Susannah Newport M 11a 274
RUTHERFORD Isabella Newport M. 11a 274

Name: Isabella Rutherford
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT CUTHBERTS, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 06 Jul 1846
Birthplace: Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Andrew Rutherford
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Menzies
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11988-9
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1066762
Reference Number: 2:18M308L
Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Groom's Name: Andrew Rutherford
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Menzies
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 04 Aug 1845
Marriage Place: Saint Cuthberts,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Robert Menzies
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11990-2
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 1066766
Reference Number:
Collection: Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910

1851 with occupations

Archibald Menzies 43 head, Queens Trumpeter & Teacher Of The Violin, b Edinburgh
>>Mary Rutherford 35 sister, House Keeper, b Edinburgh
Elizabeth Rutherford 3 niece, b Edinburgh
Janet Ritchie 48 General Servant, b Edinburgh
Isabella Rutherford 4

1841 Scotland Census
about Arche Menzies
Name: Arche Menzies
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland

Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Stephen
County: Midlothian
Address: Cumberland Street No 55
Occupation: Teacher Of Music
Parish Number: 685/1
Household Members:
Name Age
Arche Menzies 30
Isabella Menzies 30
>>Mary Menzies 25
Isabella Drummond 40
John Barnet 3

Sister for Isabella.

ELIZABETH RUTHERFORD Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
06 OCT 1847 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Parents:
Father: ANDREW RUTHERFORD Family
Mother: MARY MENZIES

Thank You, Thank You. Thank You, so very much, apologies for not getting back before now - i got lost - i've been trawling through messages and looking at different categories till my head was spinning !!!
note to self : make better notes of msg's left, and of WHEN and WHERE !!
after coming on here a few weeks ago, through hot match msgs i found my cousin who i last saw about 52 years ago, and through her another cousin i haven't seen for approx the same time .
Our parents were 3 of 10 siblings who were the grandchildren of Peter and Isabella, the only survivor is the youngest brother , 89 this year, who lost his wife on new years eve after 57 years of marriage, so not the time to bother him with questions. your help is very much appreciated. x

Thank you Lindsey* for your census info,
Thank you LancashireAnn, yes that is Alice , my cousin has copies of certificates, i need to start saving to begin my own collection !
Thank you safc , that is plenty to double check
Thank you again ***alviegal*** , again, a great start for confirming who's who,
I have passed this info on to my cousins. Again thank you All so much. x