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Hi all, can anyone help with yet another brick wall, getting a few these days!

I am looking for details for Edith Amy Stoner born in Jun 1877 in Ockley, Surrey, England.
She died in 9 Oct 1927 at 59 Pascoe Road, Catford, Lewisham.

I have details of her marrying on 13 Jul 1907 at Register Office, Brighton, Sussex, East Sussex to Frederick Philp (11 Sept 18 - 12/03/1949)
She had 5 children who were Frederick (1910 - 1910), Henry (1911 - 1990), Thomas (1914 - 1988), Charles (1919 - 1996) and Violet (1922 - 2004) who was my grandmother.

I think Edith's parents were William Stoner and Margeret but have nothing to confirm this except for a family tree on ancestry which matches mine.

Can anyone help me find Edith before she got married and who and where her parents were?
Thanks

1901 for her. Do you not have her birth certificate? Or even her marriage certificate will confirm father's name and occupation.

YORK, Grace M Head Single F 33 1868 Milliner's Shop Keeper
Dallington
Sussex VIEW
ELLIS, Bessie Cousin Single F 22 1879 Milliner's Shop Assistant
Hailsham
Sussex VIEW
ELLIS, Edith Cousin Single F 23 1878 Dressmaker
Hailsham
Sussex VIEW
STONER, Edith A Servant Single F 26 1875 Domestic Servant
Ockley
Surrey VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
931 Folio:
130 Page:
10

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
West Brighton Enumeration District:
26 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Brighton (St Peter's) with West Blatchington (St Peter's)

Civil Parish:
Brighton Municipal Borough:
Address:
6, York Place, Brighton County:
Sussex

These are my best long shots!!

Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
Johnson Edith Amy Dorking 2a 125

Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
Stoner Edith Annie St. Saviour 1d 132
Stoner Edith Annie St. Saviour 1d 123

Sorry, didn't mean to post then go, but was on lunchbreak!

I'm not convinced I have the right date of birth for Edith as she is nowhere to be found up to her marriage to Frederick.

I don't have eitherthe birth or wedding cert as spent so much recently will have to wait a bit, but have been doing amazingly well on my tree recently until I hit this particular madam!

There are trees on ancestry with suggest parents of George and Ann but there are no records ayyached to confirm it and I have learnt the lesson of copying other trees due to errors.

Well, I think you will have to save your pennies and get that marriage cert! Nothing else for it.
Jan

1911 census
110,Woodpecker Road New Cross S E London

F F Philp born 1882 brighton signal carpenter.
E A Philp wife born 1878 ockley Sussex married 3 year
3 children born 3 children died.

Maryb

thanks Mary
yes the first three children born died very young possibly at birth
but I don't know their names except for Frederick 1910 - 1910/

Ockley sussex not Ockley, surrey?
thats interesting!

I now have a copy of the wedding certificate for Edith Stoner and Frances Philp which shows the below:

District: Brighton, Brighton Register Office
Date: 13 July 1907

Frederick Francis Philp, Age:27, bachelor, carpenter journeyman
Address:18 Foundry St Brighton
father: Frederick Philp, accountant

Edith Amy Stoner, Age: 29, spinster
Address:18 Foundry St Brighton
Father:George Stoner, of independent means (?)

Witness: Frances Sarah Philp (this is Frederick's mother)
Witness:K A Lutharn (no idea who this is)

I think she mixed up Sussex and Surrey as it's corrected on the 1901 image. What an elusive woman she is!
Jan

I know, its just as well she's dead as I'd be inclined to give her a smack for lying!

Silly me, forgeot to check address 1911. Different number, but stil. A brother maybe??? Or at least a relative surely. (There's a procter family number 18).

STONER, Ernest Head Married M 25 1886 Inside Railway Porter Sussex Brighton VIEW
STONER, Jenny Wife Married
9 years F 28 1883 Sussex Brighton VIEW
STONER, Lily Daughter F 9 1902 Sussex Brighton VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5136 Reference:
RG14PN5136 RG78PN227 RD79 SD2 ED16 SN315

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
West Brighton Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Brighton

Address:
11 Foundry Street Brighton County:
Sussex

Doesn't help but anyway - I imagine this is lily:

Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
Stoner Lilian Maud Brighton 2b 224

Ockley is a historic village in Surrey, built on Stane Street, a Roman Road stretching from Chichester to London. Situated between Dorking and Horsham, close to the Sussex/Surrey border,

In passing this might be the witness - street only a mile from foundry st. - but not related as far as i can tell (maiden name paris):

LATHAM, Stephen Head Married M 47 1864 Printers Machinist Brighton Sussex VIEW
LATHAM, Kate Agnes Wife Married 15 years F 42 1869 Brighton Sussex VIEW
LATHAM, Stephen William Son M 14 1897 Brighton Sussex VIEW
LATHAM, Frank Son M 12 1899 School Newsboy Brighton Sussex VIEW
LATHAM, Kate Winnifrede Daughter F 8 1903 Brighton Sussex VIEW
LATHAM, Maude Louise Daughter F 4 1907 Brighton Sussex VIEW
LATHAM, Leslie Son M 1 1910 Brighton Sussex VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5128 Reference:
RG14PN5128 RG78PN227 RD79 SD2 ED8 SN289

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
West Brighton Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Brighton

Address:
5 Round Hill St Brighton Sussex County:
Sussex

After finding details from help given I can confirm that Ernest is Edith's brother, or very likely to be so would make sense of living nearby!

I don't see Ernest on the 1901 or 1891 census with a father George! There are a couple of possible Ernests born in Brighton around the correct time but fathers are Alfred and Albert

I agree - have been searching since yesterday and no luck. What a family!!
Jan

Update.

Emily's father was a George Stoner, and George Stoner and Ann, nee Steel, are in the 1881 census with an Emily aged 6, born Keymer. Sister Florence was also born Keymer.

The IGI shows Edith Ann Stoner, baptism Keymer 7/6/1874, parents
George and Ann.

The 1891 census has sister Florence born Ockley, Keymer.

There was an Ockley Manor in Sussex near Keymer.

Edith Ann isn't quite Edith Amy - and the closest birth index match was Edith Emily, 2Q1874 Cuckfield, which includes Keymer.