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I cannot find any trace of my grandfather on the censuses. He married my grandmother Johanna Haley in 1905 in Tower Hamlets, his father's name was given as James Johnson. I can find Johanna Haley b 1883 on the 1901 census but not Albert James Johnson, I cannot find either of them on the 1911 census, I know they lived at 56 High Street, Bromley by Bow and would have had at least two sons by 1911. Can anyone please help with advice or info?

Is this of any help - the original states they have been married for 7 years, have had three children and one child has died - Liz

1911 census - address transcription
Address: 56 High Street Bromley
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17 JONHSON, Albert James Head Married M 32 1879 Chemicals Lab Middlesex VIEW
17 JONHSON, Hannah Wife Married F 28 1883 Match Maker Middlesex VIEW
17 JONHSON, Albert Son M 5 1906 VIEW
17 JONHSON, John Son M 2 1909 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1678 Reference:
RG14PN1678 RG78PN59 RD22 SD2 ED1 SN17

Registration District:
Poplar Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Poplar Borough

Address:
56 High Street Bromley County:
London

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separate return but same address

1911 census
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born

HALEY, Ellen Mother To Hannah Johnson Widow F 66 1845 No Occupation Country of Cork

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Johnna Haley
[Johanna Haley]
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Spouse Name: Albert Johnson
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1905
Parish: All Hallows, Devons Road
County: London
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Haley
Spouse Father Name: James Johnson (decd) - Scavenger

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Johnna Haley Name: Johnna Haley
[Johanna Haley]
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Spouse Name: Albert Johnson
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1905
Parish: All Hallows, Devons Road
County: London
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Haley
Spouse Father Name: James Johnson

Alberts address given as 58 Blackthorn street occupation ink manufacturer, father James is listed as deceased occupation looks like scavenger

Johannah's address 62 Blackthorn street, father listed as James (deceased) his occupation was labourer

Thank you all sooooooo much, This is the information I needed. Now all I need is Albert James Johnson's mother's name - any suggestions?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Albert James Johnson Name: Albert James Johnson
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Poplar (To 1965)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 719

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Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
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Johnson Albert James Poplar 1c 597


Name: Albert Johnson
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Johnson
Mother's name: Caroline Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Bow
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 48 Appian Road
Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Johnson 40 >>>>>>>>>>>Labourer
Caroline Johnson 40
Elizabeth Swaby 17
John Swaby 16
Caroline Swaby 14
Frederick Johnson 10
Sarah A. Johnson 6
Jane Johnson 5
Albert Johnson 2
Samuel Johnson



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 490; Folio: 37; Page: 16; GSU roll: 1341108.

thank you, think I need to send off for Albert James birth certificate to be absolutely sure. I have also looked at previous censuses but only found a record on 1891 census for Albert J Johnson living with his widowed mother Harriett and other brothers, as I don't know if he had any brothers I cannot be sure that is him so until I get his birth certificate, I will have to be patient. I really appreciate the help and information you have all given.

1891 England Census
Name: Albert Johnson
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Stratford Le Bow St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 4 Autumn St

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
Household Members: Name Age
James Johnson 50 - wid; Roadmaker; Coventry Warwickshire
Frederick Johnson 19 - woodcutter
Sarah Ann Johnson 17 - laundress
Jane Johnson 15
Albert Johnson 13 - scholar
Samuel Johnson 10 - scholar
All offspring born Bow.

I don't think his mother was Harriet, although some people on ancestry have attached the 1881 and 1891 census with Albert J Johnson and mother Harriet below

1891 census - household transcription
Address: 41, Bromley Hall Road, Bromley

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

JOHNSTON, Harriet Head Widow F 31 1860 Poplar London
JOHNSTON, Richard Son M 13 1878 Tea Dealers Boy Poplar London
JOHNSTON, William H Son M 11 1880 Scholar Poplar London
JOHNSTON, Albert J Son M 9 1882 Scholar Poplar London
JOHNSTON, Philip J Son M 6 1885 Scholar Poplar London
JOHNSTON, Henry J Son M 5 1886 Scholar Poplar London


1881 census - household transcription
Address: 7, Harrow Cottages, Plumstead

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

JOHNSON, Richd G Head Married M 24 1857 Lighterman Poplar Middlesex
JOHNSON, Harriett Wife Married F 23 1858 Bath Somerset
JOHNSON, Richd C Son Single M 3 1878 Poplar Middlesex
JOHNSON, Wm Son Single M 1 1880 Bromley Middlesex
JOHNSON, Albert Son Single M 0 1881 Bromley Middlesex

Marriages Mar 1869
JOHNSON James Bethnal Green 1c 595 <<<<<
Stebbing Mary Bridget Bethnal Green 1c 595
SWABEY Caroline Bethnal Green 1c 595
SWABY Caroline Bethnal Green 1c 595 <<<<<
Taylor Edward Champney Bethnal Green 1c 595

Marriages Dec 1862
Brown Henry Poplar 1c 1197
George Elizabeth Poplar 1c 1197
Styles Caroline Poplar 1c 1197 <<<<<
Swaby John Poplar 1c 1197 <<<<<

1851 England Census about Caroline Styles
Name: Caroline Styles
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Edgar Balls
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 5 Auriel St

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2u
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
(This family is on the previous page, separate household at 6 Auriel St.
Edgar Balls 35
Mary Balls 32
Carnaby Balls 9
Edgar Balls 7
Frederick Balls 5
Charles Balls 3)

Henry Nevitt 39
Sarah Nevitt 37
Emma Nevitt 11
William Nevitt 9
Caroline Styles 8
Jonathan Styles 6
Elizabeth Styles 3

Marriages Dec 1850
BOX John Skinner Poplar 2 358
Coates Henry Poplar 2 358
Golding Ann Poplar 2 358
HARMAN Susan Poplar 2 358
Humphrey William Poplar 2 358
Nevitt Henry Poplar 2 358 <<<<<
Scott Sarah Ann Poplar 2 358
Styles Sarah Poplar 2 358 <<<<<

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