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thanks mike i hadnt thought about that. i guess we should never assume anything.

so yes getting her death cert would be the best thing to do
thanks florence

Can I just ask how you know his year of birth ?

If it's from the 1841 census then it won't be exact.

I would have thought your first purchase should be Ann's death to confirm whether or not he was still alive then. (It should say if Ann was a widow when she died)

patchem and kath, thanks for those two, either of which could be the one.

do you know if i order a death cert as i have not needed to before, does it give the partners name if they have already died?or is it just the name of the informant given.

if i ordered the two certs, i am just wondering how i will know which is the right one as the spelling changes quite frequently. i suppose it will give age at death or est and i do know the year he was born.

both the areas are quite close and the family came from both areas so thats why either could be a poss.

many thanks to all those who helped, really appreciated

florence

That's what I was thinking MarieC.


I think that Ann's death cert is needed to see if she was a widow at the time or if John signed the cert.

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John Proffit
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Congleton
County: Cheshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 19
Page: 70

The 1841 I posted has him as cotton weaver. The thing with 1841 is it doesn't give relationship - Anne could be a daughter, James could be her son.

Ages are as per original. Not saying it's the ones Florence is looking for. Posted it in case relative, or just to be eliminated.

There is this death:-

Name: John Prophet
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 155

Kath. x

thanks folks for the info.

patchem you have the correct family.

mike no i cant find him in 1851.

anne's death was reg in macclesfield, which is in cheshire mar 1846. i dont have the death cert so cant check who informed or see add sorry.

For information:
Deaths Mar 1846
PROFIT Anne Macclesfield 19 69

A possible death in Wilmslow ( right reg district )

Deaths Jun 1846
Proffit John Altrincham 19 13

He was a blacksmith in 1820

Was he really 25+ years older than his wife or is it mistranscribed ?

Young son too !

This looks connected:

PROPHIT, John M 60 1781 << Looks like Prophet on original
PROPHIT, Ann F 35 1806
PROPHIT, James M 5 1836 Cheshire

RG number: HO107 Piece: 115 Book/Folio: 6/54 Page: 29

Registration District: Altrincham Sub District: Wilmslow

Civil Parish: Wilmslow
Address: Oak Cottages, Wilmslow, Pownall Fee County: Cheshire

1841 England Census
John Prophett Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Where born: Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Barthomley Hundred: Nantwich County/Island Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Wybunbury

John Prophett 60 tailor
Ann Prophett 60
Fanny Prophett 20
George Prophett 15 Tailor

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 116; Book: 30; Civil Parish: Barthomley; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 20; Folio: 7; Page: 10; Line: 1; GSU roll: 241247.

Added: George not John

Where were they living in 1841 please?

Have you got Anne's death certificate to know whether he was still alive then?
Thanks

You have to take into account that on the 1841 census, ages of adults were rounded down to the nearest 5.
So he could have been 60 - 64


Have you found him on 1851 census ?


Just putting this here as a possible..........

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1853
PARBUTT John -75 -Chester Castle Cheshire West

Transcript from LancsOPC

Marriage: 7 Feb 1820
St Mary, Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Profit, bachelor, blacksmith,
& Anne Bane, spinster, both made their mark

please can someone try to locate the date of death for john profit. he was born in 1781. married anne bane on 7 feb 1820, manchester, lancs. she was also born 1781 and died mar 1846 in macclesfield.

they had 2 children fanny born in 1821 and john born 1826. so his death would be after that. he is on the 1841 census aged 60.

i have searched on fam.org and cannot trace him at all in bmd. the spelling has changed over the years and today is prophet. but i have checked without any luck.

any helpers please would be appreciated

thanks
florence