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hello

I was looking through the search records and found this man
on 1891 census.

Pyle John born.1836 Sunderland, Co Durham Gateshead, Gateshead Occ; Bricklayer (possible)

Can someone check him out please on 1891 census please.

Many Thanks.
Linda.

He's a bricklayer.

Name: John Pyle
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidans
County/Island: Durham
Country: England


Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Alice Garvey 59 c1832 Newcastle, Northumberland, England.
John Pyle 55 boarder, c1836 Sunderland, Durham, England. Bricklayer.
Marion Pyle 63 boarder c1828 Dumfries, Scotland.

Address: 74 St Cuthbert's Rd, Gateshead.

Kucinta

Thank you so very much!

Linda.

1911 poss

PYLE, John Head Widower M 75 1836 Bricklayer Sunderland County of Durham VIEW
DIVINE, Elizabeth Sister Widow F 62 1849 Char Woman Seaham Harbour County of Durham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30559 Reference:
RG14PN30559 RG78PN1752 RD558 SD2 ED2 SN277

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
St Andrew Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
St Andrew

Address:
20 Morpeth St N/c

Glitterbabe

Thank you so much.

John and Elizabeth are brother and sister...I now know where Elizabeth went as I have been unable to find her on 1891 / 1901 census.

So thanks a Million.
Linda.

Just to add, looking at the 1891 census image itself, I think Marion may have been 43, rather than the 63 she's transcribed as.

In which case this might be her death:

Death: Pyle Marian 45 Gateshead 10a 502 OND 1897.

Possibly Elizabeth in 1901?

Name: Elizabeth Devine
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Michael Devine
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Elvet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswald
Town: Durham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 193
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Devine 55
Elizabeth Devine 55
Frederick E Devine 15
John Edward Devine 13

Kucinta.

Thank you for that lookup.
I was going to do a marriage check as I cannot dismiss any information I recieve.
I do know the above couple Glitterbabe found are correct

Most grateful
Linda.

same family in 1891:

Name: Elizabeth Devine
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Michael Devine
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Elvetham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswald
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Devine 45 c1846 Durham, England. Wool scourer.
Elizabeth Devine 45
Henry Devine 20
Sarah E Devine 10
Frederic E Devine 6
John E Devine 3

Hello Kucinta.

Thank you for the Census on the Divine family. That is not the right one.

My Elizabeth was married to Thomas Devine..Elizabeth was widowed on 1881 census.

I would love to know where Elizabeth Divine/ Devine was on the 1891 -1901 census.
Elizabeth was at 20 Morpeth St Newcastle upon tyne on the 1911 census which is in the parish of St Andrew which is in the Spital Tongues.

There looks like Elizabeth never left the area at all.

Kind regards
Linda.

For information:

Name: Elizabeth Devine
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle On Tyne

Civil Parish: Newcastle On Tyne St Andrew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 51 Spital Tongues Burnside
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Laundress

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Devine 31
Winifred Devine 11
Frances Devine 7
Jane Devine 5
James Devine 3


Still having trouble finding her in 1891/1901

Might be daughter Frances in 1891:

Name: Fanny Divine
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anthony Vest 60
Susan Vest 59
Ralph Vest 35
Christopher Vest 32
William Vest 20
Anthony Vest 10
John Vest 7
Maggie Vest 17
Maggie Vest 5
Frederick Vest 4
>>>Fanny Divine 18 servant c1873 Newcastle Upon Tyne.

James and Winifred Divine in 1891?:

Name: James Devine
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Brother-in-Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England


Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 13

Household Members: Name Age
William Grey 24 c1867 Leeds, Yorkshire, England.
>>>Winifred Grey 21 c1870 Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Robert Grey 2
>>>James Devine 15 brother in law c1876 Newcastle Upon Tyne.

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
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ARMSTRONG Lizzie Newcastle T. 10b 138
>>>>DIVINE Winifred Newcastle T. 10b 138
>>>>>GRAY William Newcastle T. 10b 138
Messenger John Henry Newcastle T. 10b 138

Jane Divine in 1891:

Name: Jane Divine
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 1

Household Members: Name Age
John Pile 90 c1801 Sedgefield, Durham, England.
Jane Pile 57 wife.c1834 Carlisle, Cumberland, England.
>>>Jane Divine 15 granddaughter c1876 Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Mary Harrison 68 ward c1823 Colliny Dy Res, Northumberland, England

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Frances Divine in 1911?:

Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
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>>>Devine Frances Newcastle T. 10b 114
Evans Mary Elizabeth Newcastle T 10b 114
Mackey Robert Newcastle T. 10b 114
>>>McKay George Newcastle T. 10b 114



MCKAY, George Head Married M 34 1877 Plasterer Newcastle on Tyne
MCKAY, Francis Wife Married F 35 1876 Northumberland .
MCKAY, Son George Son M 13 1898 School.
MCKAY, Winnie Daughter F 6 1905 .
MCKAY, Violet Daughter F 4 1907.
MCKAY, James Son M 8 1903.
MCKAY, Andrew Son M 10 1901 School.

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Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
St Andrew Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
St Andrew

Address:
27 Strawberry Place Newcastle upon Tyne County:
Northumberland

married 13 years, 5 children, all living.

Winifred Gray nee Divine in census 1911 along with brother James Devine:

GRAY, William Head Married M 66 1845 Stableman Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland .
GRAY, Winnie Wife Married F 39 1872 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland .
GRAY, Robert Son M 21 1890 Miner Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland .
GRAY, Jane Daughter F 16 1895 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland.
GRAY, James Son M 12 1899 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland .
GRAY, William Son M 10 1901 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland .
GRAY, Sarah Daughter F 6 1905 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland .
DEVINE, James Brother In Law M 30 1881 Plumber's Labourer Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland .
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Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
St Andrew Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
St Andrew

Address:
49 Prudhoe St Newcastle - on Tyne County:
Northumberland

Eight children born of the marriage, three deceased by census 1911.

This might be Jane in 1911, but I'm not totally confident:

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
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>>>>Devine Jane Newcastle T. 10b 115
>>>>Gibson John Newcastle T. 10b 115
Turnbull Thomas Edward Newcastle T. 10b 115
WEATHERSTON Isabella O Newcastle T. 10b 115

GIBSON, John Head Married 14 years M 36 1875 Engine Fitter Bentick Newcastle .
GIBSON, Jane Wife Married F 34 1877 Spital Longues .
GIBSON, Elize Ann Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Benwell N C .
GIBSON, John Son Single M 9 1902 School Benwell N C .
GIBSON, Olive Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Benwell N C .
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Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
Benwell Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Benwell

Address:
28 Gill St Fenham Newcastle-Upon-Tyne

Four children born, three still living in census 1911.

Kucinta

Thank you for all that information.

With having the information of Elizabeth Divine on the census I was able to find her Death.Jun 1927
Devine Elizabeth 76 Newcastle T. 10b
So I will be off to the library to get her Obituary

Many Thanks
Linda.