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On 1911 cencus i have my GGGrandmother Rebecca Harris (nee Clark/e) married to William Harris of Edwards Terrace Quakers Yard Merthyr Tidfill. She is 38 and he is 48 and they have been married for 17 years. William Harris was born at Belmont Road Hereford and Rebecca a Merthyr Glamorgan. I have searched many times for Rebecca and Williams marriage but with no luck, also i would like to find a cencus with Rebecca as a Clark/e and living with her parents. Her mother i think was called Ann and possibly her husband was David not to sure on the David though.
I hope someone can shed some light on this
thanks Andrea

Presume you have one of the childrens births to know her maiden name?

1901 census for ref

1901 Wales Census
about William Harris
Name: William Harris
Age in 1901: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Rebecca Harris
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
Town: Treharris
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 208
Household Members: Name Age
William Harris 40
Rebecca Harris 29
David Wm Harris 7
Blodwin Harris 5
Margaret Harris 3
Beatrice Harris 10 Months


Andy

this them on the 1901 census/
Name: Rebecca Harris
Age in 1901: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Glam, Merthyr

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
Town: Treharris
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 208
Household Members: Name Age
William Harris 40
Rebecca Harris 29
David Wm Harris 7
Blodwin Harris 5
Margaret Harris 3
Beatrice Harris 10 Months


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5026; Folio: 138; Page: 50.

1881 Wales Census
about Rebecca Clark
Name: Rebecca Clark
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: David Clark
Mother's name: Margaret Clark
Gender: Female
Where born: Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: 5 Morgan Josephs Square
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Clark 41
Margaret Clark 48
William Clark 20
Joseph Clark 16
Esther Clark 14
David T. Clark 11
>>>>>>Rebecca Clark 9
John S. Clark 6
Rachel Clark 4
Ann Clark 3



Andy

There is a man missing from this list of marriages on FreeBMD - Edit - Apolgoies its the thrid woman that is missing

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
Clarke Rebecca Cardiff 11a 616
Fords John Mark Cardiff 11a 616
JONES Alfred Thomas Cardiff 11a 616
King Elizabeth Jane Cardiff 11a 616
Kinsey John Thomas Cardiff 11a 616

Yes this is the right family. I know she is a Clark/e my Nan was brought up by her Aunt Margaret Ann Matthews (nee Gould) - i think thats what she was to my nan- and it was her Aunts Mother who was Rebecca Harris sister her name was Margaret (nee Clark/e)and she married Ivor Gould.
Hope this is helping and not to confusing!
thank you Andrea

that 1894 marriage has 3 men and 2 ladies

Thank you. Where do you think Margaret Gould (nee Clark) came in to the family, possibly another child after Ann? or perhaps we have it wrong and she wasnt a sister of Rebecca?
ANDREA

the only William Harris married Q4 1894 Cardiff was reference 11a 579.

Sorry what does Q4 mean? and what does the 3 men and 2 ladies mean? whats that all about. Sorry to be so dumb!
andrea

My fault re the 1894 marriage - usually the numbers of men and women on a list of married couples on a particular reference number on FreeBMD gives equal of numbers of men and women ie husbands and wives. In the one I posted re 1894 there is actually 2 women and 3 men so one of the wives is missing. Q4 refers to the 4th qtr of the year - December qtr

Sorry, I meant the registration quarter covering October, November, December 1894. On the marriage index, you would expect to find an equal number of men & women, on the one posted it looks as if 1 man has been missed of the transcript.

I checked the index for the quarter and the only William Harris I could find married at Cardiff was a different reference number, so probably unlikely to be the missing man. It could be that he has been missed from the index though.

Would this make it impossible to find the marriage? Thanks Andrea

As all the husbands are given in the 1894 marraige and William Harris is not there it doesn't appear to be the right marriage. If it was thepossible right marriage(3 wives and 2 husbands) it is possible to search on FreeBMD with no name for all the people married in a particular qtr and year for a particular registration district ie Pontypool. It is then possible to see any individuals where the reference number or name is mistranscribed

I can't see another for a Rebecca Clarke in Wales as the right time that would match.

If this is William Harris in 1891 then he is listed as married to a Jane, wihch could be why he couldn't remarry

1891

Name: William Harris
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Hereford, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Town: Heolwermwd
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lewis Francis 58
Harriet Francis 58
David Knight 18
John Knight 16
Harriet Jones 14
William Harris 33
Jane Harris 45

Thank you. This is a tricky one!
andrea