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Trying to find where my 3xGrandmother was born.
I have an I.G.I record which says it was about 1814 St Georges hanover Square London.
But the census say she was born in Dublin Ireland..
She was married to John Smith 03/11/1835 St Georges Hanover Square London.
I cannot seem to move on and find her parents.
Will be so pleased if someone knows something.
Thanks to your help I have now established that Elizabeth Hollis was born 1813 in Dublin in Ireland ,does anyone know how I can look up this birth in Irish records,love to know who her parents were,Thankyou very much.

........and her name is ?

Is the IGI record "submitted"? If so, it's likely some boob who just went by a census location and didn't worry about accuracy, just collecting ancestors for posthumous baptism or other purposes.

I haven't been able to get familysearch.org to load for me for several days, so I can't check, unfortunately!

Where do you have the marriage record info from?

Also, would you give you grandmother's name maybe? Nobody else can search for anything without it.

The record doesn't show up on London marriages on Ancestry.

And I can't see an Elizabeth Smith born c1814 in Ireland/Dublin with husband John in the 1841/1851/1861 censuses ...

A good guessing game is always fun!

Meanwhile, if her surname isn't actually known, and if she had children in England and their births were registered, the birth certficate will give it.

She's your direct ancestor so what's the name of the child that you descend from?

PM received from Patricia..........

Her name is Elizabeth Hollas but i sent for one of the childrens Birth certificate and it had Elizabeth hollis.
Thankyou

Got one too -- Patricia, please use the "Add your reply" box down at the bottom so we're not shuffling around to our inboxes, and to save you labour. ;)

Now can you say where the marriage info came from -- the submitted record Adeline referred to? (I have no idea why I can't acess the IGI on line, and it is peeving me.)

Basically, would you just give *all* the info you have, as the guidance when you post recommends? What her children's names and birth years are, where they are living in which census, what her husband's date and place of birth are, etc. If we don't have the info you have to start with, we're going nowhere.

Janey,
Here is the info that I have on Elizabeth Hollas or Hollis.
1851 census The Genealogist,.
John Smith 50 yrs old Blacksmith by trade born Glouster residing Hammersmith Middlesex.
Wife Elizabeth Hollas/Hollis 40 yrs old born Ireland.
Jane Smith 14 Daughter. London.
Margaret smith my 2xGreat granmother 9yrs old London.
Isaac 7 yrs old son London.
George 4 yrs old son London.
Thomas 2 yrs old son London.
William 9yrs old son in the 1861 census.All living in Kensington in 1861
marriage date came from I.G.I Thankyou

just throwing this in while i read

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Name: Elizabeth Hollis
Spouse Name: John Smith
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Apr 1836
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster

One wonders about these submitted records. How did 4 April 1836 become 3 Nov. 1835?

Rambling Rose,
This one makes a lot of sense ,where on earth did you get it from?
The eldest daughterJane was Born 1837 and the icing on the cake is she was born in Marylebone.
I can't thank you enough.

This is the 1861

1861 England Census
about Elizth Smith Name: Elizth Smith
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Dublin, Ireland

Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 62
Elizth Smith 48
Jane Smith 24
Isaac Smith 17
George Smith 14
William Smith 9
Henry W Newman 2

1871 England Census
about Isaac Smith Name: Isaac Smith
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Smith 60
Isaac Smith 27
William Smith 19
Henry William Newman 12

Thankyou Rambling Rose,
You have made my day .

Not found them in 1841 though, but still trying :)

Here we go, 1841:

John Smith 35 -- occupation: Smith -- not born in County
Elizabeth Smith 25 -- born in Ireland
Elizabeth Smith 4
Jane Smith 2

Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Registration district: Kensington


Eliz Jr died in childhood, perhaps, or in service by 1851.

Rose got that marriage from ancestry


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Elizabeth Hollis
Spouse Name: John Smith
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Apr 1836
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster



You can look at the image of the actual page from the Parish Register, and see their signatures (or mark).


Unfortunately, the marriage was before the era when occupations and addresses, and fathers' names and occupations, were on the register.



sylvia

also try looking on www.beta.familysearch.org


for example:-

Isaac Smith


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Isaac Smith
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 31 Oct 1852
baptism/christening place: St. Pauls, Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
birth date: 24 Jan 1844
father's name: John Smith
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C02779-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1966218




sylvia