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Kathleen M Thornber wife of Gilbert J Macdonald

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Richard

Richard Report 7 Dec 2010 12:28

Hi All,
I am trying to find the parents of Kathleen M Thornber who married Gilbert James Tyndall Macdonald in Nelson, Lancs in 1937.
I would also like to find out if they had any children and where and when Kathleen died.
Did she divorce Gilbert? Gilbert married again in 1953 in Sutherland, Scotland.

Any help would be so much appreciated.
All the best
Richard

Julie

Julie Report 7 Dec 2010 12:32

You can look on here to see if they had any children

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Julie

Julie Report 7 Dec 2010 12:36

What does the M stand for as there are 2 births for a Kathleen with the middle initial M with one showing as Mary

Flick

Flick Report 7 Dec 2010 12:42

To find any possible death, it is necessary to know - at least - the year of birth for Kathleen.

Her age at the time of her marriage will be on her marriage cert

Flick

Flick Report 7 Dec 2010 12:43

Gilbert's second marriage cert should say whether he was widowed or divorced

Flick

Flick Report 7 Dec 2010 12:46

Two births on Ancestry for MacDonald/Thornber.................as suggested above....look for them on freebmd

Flick

Flick Report 7 Dec 2010 12:51

???????????.based solely on location

Name: Kathleen M Macdonald
Death Registration Month/Year: 1942
Age at death (estimated): 38
Registration district: Nelson
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 203

Flick

Flick Report 7 Dec 2010 12:54

As referred to above by Julie

Name: Kathleen Mary Thornber
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Burnley
County: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 8e
Page: 223

Julie

Julie Report 7 Dec 2010 13:00

I think its to close to call & you really need to buy the M/C

Here are the 2 births

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
Thornber Kathleen Mary Burnley 8e 223

Births Sep 1910 (99%)
THORNBER Kathleen M Blackburn 8e 339

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& then you have these 2 marriages ( which 1 of is yours)

Marriages Mar 1934 (>99%)
Thornber Kathleen M Smith Blackburn 8e 763

Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%)
Thornber Kathleen M Macdonald Nelson 8e 459

Cathy

Cathy Report 7 Dec 2010 13:12


Year Surname Forename Sex District City/ County/ MR GROS Data Image Extract
1901 MACDONALD GILBERT JAMES T M NEWINGTON EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/05 1298

Richard

Richard Report 7 Dec 2010 13:20

Thanks to all for the quick response and info.
Sadly I do not know what the M stands for in middle name as all I have is the BMD record of the marriage to Gilbert Macdonald whcih only gives Kathleen M Thornber.
The birth date also is a mystery as there are three on the BMD, one in 1901, one in 1904 and one in 1910. Gilbert the husband was born in 1901 so it could feasibly be any of these 3 as both Burnley and Blackburn districts are not so far apart (although I would lean toward Burnley as the marriage was in Nelson)
The marriage certificate of Gilbert's second marriage in 1953 is not available on Scotland's people as they will only give info on marriages before 1943.
We are really spoilt in Scotland with records compared to England and Wales as our birth certs give details of parents, marriage certs give both sets of parents and death certs give parents and sometimes even marriage date of parents.
I just hoped that someone would recognise the names and have the info to hand, a long shot I know, so now I will just have to try and buy some of the relevant certs and see what comes up.

Many thanks again for all the effort to reply.
All the best
Richard

Flick

Flick Report 7 Dec 2010 13:23

Any thoughts on the DEATH?

Flick

Flick Report 7 Dec 2010 13:25

This is 1911 to match the 1904 birth.....and the death

Person: THORNBER, K Mary
Address: 11 Park Avenue Burnley

Cost:
You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


THORNBER, William E Head Married M 34 1877 Cotton Manufacturer Lancashire Burnley VIEW
THORNBER, Mary C Wife Married
7 years F 30 1881 Lancashire Burnley VIEW
THORNBER, K Mary Daughter F 6 1905 Private School Lancashire Burnley VIEW
MOORE, Charlotte Servant Single F 28 1883 General Servant Yorkshire Guisborough


Kathleen's MARRIAGE cert is the most useful document for your search

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Dec 2010 13:27

definitely Kathleen Mary

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1937
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
THORNBER Kathleen Mary MACDONALD Gilbert James Tyndall Nelson, St Mary Preston CE126/5/190

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Dec 2010 13:31

the 1904 birth

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1904
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THORNBER Kathleen Mary Burnley West Preston RICHMOND BUW/21/86

the 1910 one is kathleen maria

the 1901 one has no middle name

there are only these 2 between 1890 & 1921 on lancsbmd

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Dec 2010 13:32

and the marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
THORNBER William Ewart RICHMOND Mary Carrie Burnley, St Matthew the Apostle Preston CE105/2/376

Julie

Julie Report 7 Dec 2010 13:40

Well Done Ann....i do keep forgetting to look on that site you use :o))

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 7 Dec 2010 14:11

thanks for your kind words Julie

along with lan-opc it is a v useful site for lancashire especially with mmn being listed for many areas

full url for those interested

lancashirebmd.org.uk

lan-opc.org.uk

one or 2 of the other 'bmd' sites eg staffordshirebmd also have started having the mmn facility

Richard

Richard Report 7 Dec 2010 15:42

Thank you very much, Julie, Flick, Ann and Cathy for all your help and advice, I now know where to go and what to do. I really appreciate all you have done for me.

Many thanks
All the best
Richard