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info on ROGERS/GUTTRY/ FLETCHER australia

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krisynda

krisynda Report 7 Dec 2010 03:17

Im looking for a few people to figure out how they fit in with eachother

MARY ANN FLETCHER b c1855 & GEORGE GUTTRY bc1850
children mary ann 1877, george 1879, frank 1882, ellen 1884, john 1888, and matilda 1890 GUTTRY
MARY ANN GUTTRY b c1855 & WILLIAM ROGERS b c1850
children Sarah Jane Ann 1902 & William ROGERS c1895

They were all around collie, williams bridge area

any help would be really appreciated :)

Valerie

Valerie Report 7 Dec 2010 04:46

..... I found a marriage for Mary Guttry to William Rogers - 1895 at Quindanning (WA)..... ( just before the birth of Wm Rogers 1895?)

George Guttry may have died? Seems Mary had 2 marriages.

(can't check right now myself)

I noticed Matilda J Guttry (Guthrie) married a John Page in 1910. (seems both spellings were used.)

Valerie (Albany WAus)

Valerie

Valerie Report 7 Dec 2010 05:13

.cont....

Sarah Jane Rogers married Thomas Shaw 1922

Is there something more specific you're after? I can try!

Valerie

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 7 Dec 2010 08:04

This is the only death of George Guttry in W.A., a year before Mary Ann remarried, I know age is out but possibility?????????

Surname Name Age Fathers Name Mothers Name Reg No Reg Yr

Guttry George 66 Unknown Unknown 682 1894

Valerie

Valerie Report 7 Dec 2010 08:33

... yes... that seems to be him.... it's quite fitting ...with Mary Ann's 2nd marriage almost following in 1895.

I think he must've died 'alone' somewhere .... (farming?) as the 'informant' didn't seem to know his details ..... his age must've been a guess.

Valerie

krisynda

krisynda Report 7 Dec 2010 08:36

Thankyou Valerie, i was hoping i could see how the houses were set up, I have written down that she had the 2 marriages but recently i have found someone with the family and some things don't quite add up. I was hoping if i had the census info i could see exactly who was in the households and it would make things clearer than knowing the births and deaths.... i have the above info in my tree

specifically i wanted to know if i was getting the mother MARY ANN GUTTRY b c1955 mixed up with her daughter b1877 and had the right person marrying william rogers in my tree

moonbi

moonbi Report 7 Dec 2010 10:35

Krisynda

go to
www.exploregenealogy.co.uk/Australian Census.html


Here you will find out about our privacy laws.
but scroll down to read about WA
Also
Electoral rolls are useful only for those who have enrolled to vote. No family members listed under ages ect

krisynda

krisynda Report 7 Dec 2010 14:03

Thankyou moonbi

What would be the best way to find out if she was using her mothers maiden name for her first 2 children, they have the exact same name.... do the older birth certificates have a birthdate for the mother?

krisynda

krisynda Report 7 Dec 2010 17:15

Thanks to a couple of new websites im having a nice run of information coming into my tree :) If anyone has information on the marriage of

WILLIAM ROGERS and MARY ANN GUTTRY b1977 married in WA especially anything that has their ages listed at marriage if possible

it would be super handy
thankyou again

moonbi

moonbi Report 7 Dec 2010 21:40

Good morning, its now 830am Aus time

do you mean

Mary Ann Guttry 1877

George Guttry 1879

What is her mother's maiden name

Have you looked in WA bdm ?

www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

GO TO the left hand column and click on the things you want to know about
eg what birth regs have in them etc prior to 1896.

its all there to read under different headings
Tells you how you can order certs and how much they cost

If you cant do it yourself........

write ALL you know about EACH of these people, and I will try to look for you.

your previous post says
william Rogers and MAry Ann Guttry b 1977

sorry
there is now way we can find out about births in 1977.
Do you mean 1877 ??




krisynda

krisynda Report 8 Dec 2010 00:01

Hi moonbi im sorry i did mean 1877, i have done this...

heres what i have so you can see why im slightly confused....

On all the records....

MARY ANN FLETCHER c1862, GEORGE GUTTRY C1850 M1876
CHILDREN- MARY ANN GUTTRYb1877, George, Frank, Ellen, John, Matilda

MARY ANN FLETCHER, WILLIAM ROGERS
had children- SARAH ANN JANE ROGERS 1902 and WILLIAM ROGERS 1895

MARY ANN JULIA GUTTRY 1877 and UNKNOWN*
had children DORIS HELENA GRACE GUTTRY b1899 and ALFRED WILLIAM GEORGE GUTTRY B1905

another member has told me that the unknown person was WILLIAM ROGERS but i cant seem to find that information anywhere?? I thought possibly there would be another WILLIAM ROGERS there and that censuses might have helped me.... just wasnt sure

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Dec 2010 02:27


Can you give me a day or so to check this for you?
It might take a coffee or two !!

Annette

krisynda

krisynda Report 8 Dec 2010 02:49

Yes no problem...

i really would appreciate that!

Thankyou

Valerie

Valerie Report 8 Dec 2010 02:58

in case it helps ......

...William George Owen Rogers born 1895 parents William & Mary Ann Fletcher.

Valerie

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Dec 2010 03:01

For my reference Western Australia

Mary Ann Fletcher born 1855 (cant find her death record)
First Married in 1876 at Williams River reg no 4197

1. George Guttry b circa 1850 who died 1894 death reg no 682

FAMILY ONE

1 Mary Ann b.1877

2 George b 1879 Williams Bridge reg no 22706

3 Frank b 1882 married Clara A Pumphrey in 1909 District of Williams reg no 34

4 Ellen b 1884 Williams Bridge reg no 25795

5 John Thomas b 1888 died 1889 age 1 yr father Geo. death record no 77

6 Matilda J. b 1890 married john Page in 1910 district of Williams reg no 6

Second married
Mary Ann Guttry b 1855 Married William Rogers in 1895 at Quindanning.

FAMILY TWO

1 WIlliam George Owen Rogers b 1895 father William, mother Mary Ann Fletcher, reg no 371 Williams District

2 Sarah Jane Ann b 1902 who married Thomas Shaw in 1922

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Dec 2010 03:13

Thanks Valerie;
thats the key!!!!

As William George Owen Rogers born 1895 mother IS Mary Ann Fletcher
then problem solved.

Mary Ann who married Mr William Rogers is the same lady as Mary who firstly married George Guttry.

Annette

krisynda

krisynda Report 8 Dec 2010 03:47

Thankyou very much for taking the time to search for me! :)

I was getting myself so confused

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Dec 2010 03:52

Cant find her death as Mrs Rogers

Look at the edits I have done in my former post
Have given you reg no for different things

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Dec 2010 04:02

Krisynda

Im so glad you can see the value of not copying from someone else's tree

All along you were correct, Yes?

do not delete this thread in case you need to review others in the family.
Just add on to this one
saves helpers going through it all again

Cheers, and thank you for saying thanks
Annette

krisynda

krisynda Report 8 Dec 2010 04:09

Sarah Jane Ann b 1902 who married Thomas Shaw in 1922

had children
1. George James Shaw b1922 perth
2. Mary Shaw b1924
3. Jessie Shaw b1926 wellington
4. Christina Shaw b1928 wellington
5. Edward (Teddy) Shaw b1930 wellington
6.Shirley Shaw b1933 wellington
7. Peter Shaw b 1940 noggerup (my grandad)

is it possible to find marriages for these people it would be after 1940??
My grandad was taken from his family when he was 1 or 2 he can't remember which homes he was placed with until he was 7 or 8, is there any way of finding this out... libraries etc??