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Hi Mary,
Yes John James Supple was Louisa's grdson. We were looking to find what happened to his father John Supple Sutton. He is recorded as "dec" on John James's marriage cert in 1873. So looks like "job done"
Thanks for your help.
Pam

What were the names of John James Supple born 1853 grandparents who he was with 1871.

The only one I can find is John Supple 1861 /1871 census he is with Stephen Williams 1831 and louisa williams 1821 they seem a bit young to be grandparents.

Maryb

Edit,just re read post it is the correct census i have looked at.
Louisa Williams born @ 1821 so how could she be mum of mary ann born @ 1829??

I found what happened to Mary. She died in 1861.

Yes............in 1873 he married my gr gr gr aunt Ann Knight. John the father was dead by then. The big BUT is............what happened to his parents Mary and John and then his gr father Richard?

John is still with his grandmother in 1871, I see.............

Mary was b. Mary Ann Phelps 3rd Aug 1828 and it looks as if the igi was Parish Records. Thanks

Are these the births?

Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
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SUPPLE Thomas Richard Alverstoke 7 24

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Births Sep 1849 (>99%)
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SUPPLE John Richard Alverstoke 7 27

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Births Jun 1852 (>99%)
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SUPPLE John James Payne Alverstoke 2b 401

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Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
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SUPPLE Ellen Alverstoke 2b 416
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And death?

Deaths Dec 1849 (>99%)
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Supple John Richard Alverstoke 7 20

If the info was from freebmd.....do you have the certs? Or how else do you know the names of the parents...........

So sorry Flick..........I got the info from freebmd

The IGI records are either extracted or submitted......the info is on the record.

Extracted means taken from Parish records....submitted means provided by an LDS member, and not necessarily accurate

Name: Mary Ann Supple
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Alverstoke, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England


Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 2g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Supple 22
Elizabeth Ann Pokes 22

No-one else in the household

Sorry Flick, being a it of a novice, Whats extracted mean ?

Could you answer my question about Mary's birth year..............please!

Is the IGI info 'extracted'?

Can only find Mary in 1851 census...........living at Coopers Yard Alverstoke, wife of a seaman. She has a friend, Elizaeth Ann Vokes with her. Can anyone turn the page to see if there is anyone else in the house hold?.........can only assume John is at sea !

Mary was born Alverstoke daughter of Louisa Twine and James Phelps. The children were b. Alverstoke. This info from IGI..Thomas Richard Supple 1848.....John Richard Supple . b.1849 d 1849............John James Payne Supple b. 1852 and Ellen Supple b, 1859. \john James is the only one I can find in1861 census.

Where and when was MARY born?

What are the names and birthplaces of the children other than JOHN?

For INFO only...1861 for the son

Name: John Supple
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Forton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
Town: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England


Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 10


Have you found the family in 1851?

Hi All,
Can anyone help me with this "brick wall" please ?
JOHN SUPPLE SUTTON b. 1820 ish. place not known.
MARRIED............ MARY ANN PHILLIPS 10th Novemer 1845 Alverstoke Hampshire. Gave his occupation as Mariner. Gave his fathers name as Richard Sutton, shoemaker. They have about 4 children between 1848 and 1859. In 1857 he signs as a witness when his mother in law gets married at Alverstoke. By 1861 a son, John James Supple is living with his grandmother, Louisa Williams, in Portsea. There is no sign of Mary or John Supple Sutton. Would like to know more about Richard Sutton too as I can't find him anywhere ! They tended to adopt the name Supple rather than Sutton.
Regards,
Pam