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Lauren

Lauren Report 27 Nov 2010 15:42

Hi all,

I am looking for a Mary Ellen/Nellie Larner.

I know she had a son Gilbert George Larner in 1910 but there was no father.

I have found the following info on her:

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10 Gilbert George Larner
Aged 1; child of Nellie, 25. Parish - Saint Ebbe. In-door poor.
Oxford Board of Guardians Reports, 1912.
Reference OPI-50765
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15 Mary Ellen/Nellie Larner
Aged 25; servant. Address - 7 Bridport Street. Parish - Saint Ebbe. Out-door poor, In-door poor.
Oxford Board of Guardians Reports, 1908–1912.
Reference OPI-44951
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This info was found in the Oxfordshire research archives!!!

I have also found her on the 1911 census but this doesn't lead me anywhere....

Can anybody help me ??

Thanks

Lauren



RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 27 Nov 2010 15:47

are you trying to go back or forward?

Lauren

Lauren Report 27 Nov 2010 15:51

Both!!

Andrew

Andrew Report 27 Nov 2010 15:51

Marriage?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Gilbert G Larner
Name: Gilbert G Larner
Spouse Surname: Tomkins (Margaret L)
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1931
Registration district: Headington
Registration county (inferred): Oxfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 2867

Death




England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Gilbert George Larner
Name: Gilbert George Larner
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1910
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Oxford
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 20
Page: 2327


Andy

K

K Report 27 Nov 2010 15:52

The 1911 census you found lists her as born in 1883 in Witney Oxfordshire if you are going back

Lauren

Lauren Report 27 Nov 2010 15:53

Hi Andy. Thanks for that but I have found Gilbert's death. Nellie seems to just disappear into thin air though!! Very hard to find her!!

Lauren

Lauren Report 27 Nov 2010 15:54

Thanks K.

Yep it says that!! But then the info I found in the archives states in 1912 that she is 25 which would mean she was born in 1887! V confusing

K

K Report 27 Nov 2010 15:57

Just posting this for information - The image lists her as niece of the Walkers

1911 census - household transcription
Person: LARNER, Ellen
Address: 7 Bridport St S Ebbes Oxford

WALKER, Mbr Alfred Head Married M 50 1861 Gas Works General Labourer Parish of St Ebbes VIEW
WALKER, Thirza Wife Married
29 years F 50 1861 Oxford VIEW
LARNER, Ellen Boarder Single F 28 1883 Day Domestic Servant Oxford Witney VIEW
LARNER, Gilbert Nephew M 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Oxford Oxford VIEW
PURNEY, Mabel Grandchild F 6 1905 Oxford Oxford VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
8149 Reference:
RG14PN8149 RG78PN413 RD153 SD1 ED8 SN13

Registration District:
Oxford Sub District:
Oxford Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
St Ebbes

Address:
7 Bridport St S Ebbes Oxford County:
Oxfordshire

Lauren

Lauren Report 27 Nov 2010 16:00

Not sure how she can be their niece and then her son (Gilbert) their nephew??

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 27 Nov 2010 16:14

what about this: 1891
Name: Mary Ellen Lamer
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Lamer
Mother's name: Mary Ann Lamer
Gender: Female
Where born: Witney, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wootton
Ecclesiastical parish: Wootton
Town: Wootton
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Woodstock
Sub-registration district: Woodstock
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Lamer 40
Mary Ann Lamer 38
Elizabeth Lamer 11
Mary Ellen Lamer 8

I would say that on the image it is Larner

Vera

Vera Report 27 Nov 2010 16:20

Hi Lauren

On the image Gilbert is their great nephew....ellen is their niece. Also on the image Ellen had 2 children, but one died.

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 27 Nov 2010 16:24

Going on what Belle found..

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
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Barrett Mary Ann Witney 3a 1198
Brown Emily Hannah Witney 3a 1198
Dixon Frederick Witney 3a 1198
Larner John Witney 3a 1198

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 27 Nov 2010 16:34

1871
Thurza Barrett
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Barrett
Mother's name: Charlotte Barrett
Gender: Female
Where born: North Leigh, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: North Leigh
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: North Leigh
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Witney
Sub-registration district: Ensham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Barrett 45
Charlotte Barrett 40
Mary A Barrett 19
Amelia Barrett 16
Nathaniel Barrett 14
Thurza Barrett 10
Charlotte Barrett 7
Emily Barrett 3


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 27 Nov 2010 16:35

Thurza Walker nee Barrett was Ellens mothers sister. Thats what it looks like.

Regards Vera

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 27 Nov 2010 16:36

Barry, I have been looking for that marriage but put Thirza.

So that means Thirza and Mary Ann Barrett were sisters

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 27 Nov 2010 16:43

wonder if this is her birth with surname misspelt:

Name: Mary Ellen Lardner
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Witney
County: Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 779

Lauren

Lauren Report 27 Nov 2010 17:47

Wow!!! Thank you everyone so much for your input!!

Can finally get somewhere with her...

Barry, I have the marriage for Gilbert and Margaret. They are my great grandparents!

Thank you so so much

Lauren

Lauren Report 27 Nov 2010 18:12

Can anyone see a marriage or death for her?

Lauren

Lauren Report 8 Dec 2010 13:48

Can anyone find the marriage or death for Mary Ellen Larner?

Lauren

Lauren Report 14 Jan 2011 15:29

Bump