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sounds like you have the short version of the certificates, to get the one with the father's and mother's names, occupations and address etc you would need to order the full cert from the GRO

Thank you for your help, we do know after the death of emily Albert finished his days living in Ilford with his eldest daughter.

Might be worth having an Electoral Roll look up to see who she was living with.

It looks as though Emily didn't re-marry and died as Trood

Deaths Dec 1940 (>99%)
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Trood Emily 54 Ilford 4a 832

oh dear! the birth cert is very tiny it does not show the mothers name either it only shows the childs name and the registras name

It could be doubtful then if Albert is the father or the two Romford children as she doesn't name him on the birth certificate.

yes i kew there was 1other daughter who died young but i have a birth cert. for a son born in the district of romford and it is the one shewn above
thank's very much. It only shows a mother has Albert done a runner i know Albert is on the scene some years later

I checked the 1911 by the address you gave and his wife is Emily. They have been married for 1 year and have a daughter Gladys Lilian who is 6 months old.
There are two more Trood/Ferris births. But they are in Romford. Do the names mean anything to you?

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Trood Dudley E Ferris Romford 4a 1005

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Births Mar 1918 (99%)
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Trood Marjorie E Ferris Romford 4a 771

I honestly don't know he was born St saviours london daughter was born Oct 1910Porstsmouth it is possible

So he was Albert Edward

Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
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>>FERRIS Emily Sevenoaks 2a 1431
LAWRENCE Frederick Sevenoaks 2a 1431
>>TROOD Albert Edward Sevenoaks 2a 1431
WILKINSON Beatrice Blanche Sevenoaks 2a 1431

1911 census Albert's wife and daughter were living at 7 meon rd. portsmouth
perhaps the naval record that i have is incomplete or was he in a naval prison for some reason, as i can't find him in the census

possible Walter Charles was Albert's brother

The details given to the Metropolitan Asylum Board are only as good as the knowledge of the person who gave them the information in the first place.

sorry no relation

1911 census - household transcription
Person: TROOD, Walter Charles
Address: 202 Mitcham Road Croydon

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

KEARN, William George Head Married M 25 1886 Fishmonger Assistant South Norwood Surrey
KEARN, Edith Wife Married F 26 1885 Morston Heath Surrey
KEARN, Vera Gladys Daughter F 2 1909 Surrey Croydon
TROOD, Walter Charles Visitor Single M 26 1885 Fishmonger Assistant Gravesend Middlesex

the Exmouth was financed by THE METROPOLITAN ASYLUM BOARD if they gave the birth details to the navy i would expect them to be correct also the name as they would have probably had him in care from a very early age, or am i being to picky

Albert Edward Trood
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 378

?? Also present Walter C Trude

Albert E Trude
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Hanwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Hanwell
Town: Hanwell
ED, institution, or vessel: Central London District School

i don't know the first ship that Albert was on EXMOUTH was financed by a London council it was where they sent the orphans and poor kids it was moored off Grays in Essex

'Adult' baptism:

Name: Albert Trodd
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Nov 1889
Father's name: James Trodd
Mother's name: Ann Trodd
Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Greenwich

Address Warspite Training ship. Occupation Tinman. Born Nov 30th 1876.

I know the details don't match, but it seems a co-incidence not just with the name but also the fact both served on a training ship.