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could I get some help with this please.

James Purcell married Mary Woodhouse in 1857 at Sculcoates

He was born in Ireland and she was born in Hull. I can't find them together

on any GR census, they had 6 children all born in Yorkshire.

Many thanks Barbara

Hi,

1871 England Census about Mary Ann Purcell
Name: Mary Ann Purcell
[Mary Ann Woodhouse]
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James Purcell
Mother's name: Mary Woodhouse
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: East Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members:
Name Age
James Purcell 31 Born Shadwell, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Purcell 29
Mary A Purcell 8
Agnes Purcell 6
Alice Purcell 5
Ada Purcell 3
Joseph Purcell 1
Florence Purcell 1 Month
Mary Woodhouse 61 >> Mother in law
Mary Ann Train 16



Dee x

Tkank you Dee.

I did have James as Middlesex then thought I had found info on him coming from Ireland.

His father David and Grandfather Thomas are they from Ireland?

I would appreciate any information you could give me on them and their families

Barbara
xxx

1891

PURCELL, James Head Married M 50 1841 Violin Maker & Repairer
London
Middlesex
PURCELL, Mary A Wife Married F 48 1843
Hull
Yorkshire
PURCELL, Alice Daughter Single F 25 1866 Tailoress
Hull
Yorkshire
PURCELL, Joseph Son Single M 21 1870 Carting Agent
Hull
Yorkshire
PURCELL, Clara Daughter Single F 16 1875 Assistant At Home
Hull
Yorkshire
PURCELL, Ada Daughter F 14 1877 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire
PURCELL, James H Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3936 Folio:
11 Page:
16

Registration District:
Hull Sub District:
Myton Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John

Civil Parish:
Holy Trinity and St Mary Municipal Borough:
Kingston upon Hull Address:
7, Waltham Street, Holy Trinity And St Mary, Kingston Upon Hull County:
Yorkshire (East Riding)

1851 England Census about James Purcell
Name: James Purcell
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's name: David Purcell
Mother's name: Mary Purcell
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Wapping
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Shadwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members:
Name Age
David Purcell 46 Born Dublin, Ireland
Mary Purcell 48 Born Exeter, Devon
Frances Purcell 23
James Purcell 12
Alfred Seaman 28
Thomas Chatley 24
Danl Campbwell 34
Henry Foster 19
George Bullen 26
John Kingston 35
Elizabeth Salter 21
Sophia Weldon 23
George Godart 18

Is this looking like james and his parents?


Dee x

1841

Name: James Purcell
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St John Wapping
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Shadwell and Wapping
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Purcell 35 born in Middlesex
Thomas Purcell 60 ..does not say born in Ireland, and there is a column for such entries
Mary Purcell 35
Elizabeth Purcell 15
James Purcell 2
Frances Purcell 13
William Linwood 35
Patrick W Menway 25
Antonio Menway 35

Thank you Dee . Sue and Flick. There seems to be quite a gap between
James and Elizabeth . There is a discrepancy between 1841 and1851.
David is born in both Ireland and Middlesex, I wonder which is correct.

Regards
Barbara

Your remark about the age gap set me thinking...........

Could Mary be David's second wife?


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Marriages Jun 1838 (>99%)
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CAPE Edward St Saviour 4 416
Conquest Ebenezer Cornell St Saviour 4 416
Cox Jane St Saviour 4 416
Flashman Mary S Saviour 4 416 ***********
LODGE Elizabeth Eve St. Saviours 4 416
MILLS Edward St. Saviours 4 416
NEWTON Eliza St. Saviours 4 416
PURCELL David St. Saviours 4 416 ************

Interesting!

Name: Mary Flashman
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Apr 1805
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARY MAJOR,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Flashman
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05100-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 917103
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Flashman
Name: Mary Flashman >.spinster
Spouse Name: David Purcell >> gentleman servant.. Bachelor
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 05 May 1838
Parish: Christ Church
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Henry Flashman
Spouse Father Name: William Purcell >. clerk to merchant >.


This maybe a different chap Flick,


Dee x

The full batch..from the IGI

Flashman, British Isles
Father: George , Mother: Mary
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C051001
1. MARY FLASHMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 MAY 1796 Saint Mary Major, Exeter, Devon, England ********DEATH 13 Jan 1802

2. MARY FLASHMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 APR 1805 Saint Mary Major, Exeter, Devon, England

3. JOHANNA FLASHMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 04 MAY 1798 Saint Mary Major, Exeter, Devon, England

4. THOMAS NELSON FLASHMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 APR 1801 Saint Mary Major, Exeter, Devon, England ***********DEATH 14 Nov 1801

5. THOMAS FLASHMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 NOV 1802 Saint Mary Major, Exeter, Devon, England

AND.................................................

GEORGE FLASHMAN
Spouse: MARY AEARS Marriage: 06 OCT 1794 Saint Mary Major, Exeter, Devon, England

Could indeed, Dee, probably is!........

I'd picked up on the stated birthplace for Mary in 1851.................probably sheer coincidence!

Oh, if only we had a time machine!

Flick,

I think if we had a time machine poor Barbara would be left by herself here and we would be searching for our own elusive ancestors...... the ones that can't even be found by the starry peeps.


Dee x

How true.........I might then be able to find out my great-grandfather's parentage!

If you get one for Christmas Flick, any chance of a lift back in time??

LOL!!!

Dee x

Flick are all those christenings siblings? Confusing when they use a name twice. Thanks to you all for the information. Should I flip a coin to decide Davids birthplace.
I would love to travel back in time and be a fly on the wall to see how everyone lived and zoom down to check on letters and notes so I had everyone in the right place on my tree.

Dream on , Barbara

They are probably siblings...but one can't be 100% sure.

Where the names are repeated, you will see (I hope) that I have given you the death dates for the first ones to have been given the name.

The info is freely available on the IGI

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