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Hello All,
Once again may I say many many thanks for all your kind help especially Kucinta.
I'm afraid sleep then work caught up with me but now I'm home and fed I have the opportunity to say how grateful I am for all your help.
Bye
Paul

Census 1911:

LANGSTON, William Frederick Head Married M 58 1853 Commercial Traveller Hardware Cranfield Bedfordshire .
>>>LANGSTON, Sarah Wife Married 16 years F 43 1868 Middlesex Limehouse .
LANGSTON, Frederick William Son M 10 1901 School Essex Canning Town .

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10150 Reference:
RG14PN10150 RG78PN533B RD195 SD2 ED38 SN149

Registration District:
Rochford Sub District:
Prittlewell Enumeration District:
38 Parish:
Prittlewell

Address:
20 Burnaby Road Southend Essex County:
Essex

Census 1911:

Two children of the marriage deceased by 1911.

COVE, Dave Head Married M 51 1860 House Mason Labourer Burton Wiltshire .
>>>>>COVE, Annie Elenore Wife Wife F 48 1863 House Wife >>>>St Pauls Rd Limehouse .
COVE, Thomas Son Single M 19 1892 Electrician Bridge Rd Battersea .
COVE, Alice Daughter Single F 17 1894 Biscuit Packer Long Leedge St Battersea .
COVE, William Son Single M 11 1900 School Latchmers St Battersea .
COVE, Annie Daughter F 9 1902 School Latchmers St Battersea .
COVE, Violet Daughter F 7 1904 School Grant Rd Battersea VIEW
COVE, Hilda Daughter F 4 1907 Lothair St Battersea .

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2212 Reference:
RG14PN2212 RG78PN75 RD26 SD2 ED24 SN363

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
North West Battersea Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
Battersea

Address:
100 Grant Road Battersea S W County:
London

Marriage of DAUGHTER Sarah Cary:

Name: Sarah Cary
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Spouse Name: William Fredrick Langston
Spouse Age: 40
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1895
Parish: St Thomas, Stepney
County: London
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Cary
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Langston,

William Frederick Langston, 40, widower, tin plate worker of 18 Whitcham [? hard to read] Lane, son of Thomas langston, carman, married Sarah Cary, spinster, 28, Tailoress, of the same address, daur of Thomas Cary, agricultural chemist. Witnesses ???? Langston & M D Rutherford.

actually Kucinta


I missed seeing that you had put the address down


so I should be saying mea culpa to you!



off to bed now


good night


sylvia

Maybe he was originally some sort of travelling salesman in artifical manure - later elevated to manufacture and 'industrial chemist'.

Sarah's father is James Ary, brewer, on both marriages, so definitely the 'Traveller' is father to children of the 'industrial chemist' - artifical fertiliser maker.

Address was 2 St Paul's Rd for first batch baptism, I misread 2St [Paul's}for 25 on Ann Elmore's baptism . Mea culpa, so thanks for the correction.

I have NEVER seen a census entry like the one in 1861 for this family


I'm sure Paul has it, but I just have to post it!


1861 Census


1861 England Census

Name: Thomas Carey
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Carey
Gender: Male
Where born: Northam Th Blampttone

Civil Parish: Limehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: Limehouse St Paul
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse

Thomas Carey 49 Artitifical Manure Manufacturer
Sarah Carey 33 b.ca 1828, West Ham, Essex
Maria Carey 5 b.ca 1856, West Ham
Thomas Cary 3 b.ca 1858, Shatford, Essex
Edward Cary 2 b.ca 1859, Shatford
James Cary 10 MO b.ca 1860, St Pauls Road, Limehouse

Address:- Artificial Manure Work, St Pauls Road


Written in the Occupations Column under Thomas occupation and filling in all the space for all the other members of the fmaily is:-

note
all well & hearty
and all belonging
to the Evangelical
Church of England





sylvia

hang on


When they got married, Thomas Cary was a Traveller


When the children are baptized, he's an Agricultural Chemist

??????



Address on the baptismal record:- 2 St Paul's Road, Limehouse, Middlesex



When James Stafford got married, he said his father Thomas Cary was deceased, and an Agricultural Chemist



sylvia

I know you have at least some of the details of this but decided to post it anyway:

Name: Sarah Cary
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Spouse Name: George Lunn
Spouse Age: 60
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 02 Nov 1875
Parish: Christ Church, Spitalfields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Ary
Spouse Father Name: Halam Lunn

George Lunn, widower, 60, cab proprietor, of Montague St, son of Halam Lunn, farmer, and Sarah Cary, widow, 44, also of Montague St, daur of James Ary, brewer. Witnesses George Wright, Ellen Wright.

EDIT: Are you related to the witnesses?

Marriages:

Name: James Stafford Cary
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Sarah Ellen Higgins
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 07 Oct 1888
Parish: St Mark, Victoria Park
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Cary
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Nathaniel Higgins

LATER EDIT: To add to info Sylvia gives in her posting below: James Stafford Cary, bach, 28, labourer, of 46 Sutherland Rd, Old Ford, son of Thomas Cary deceasd, agricultural chemist, and Sarah Ellen Higgins, spinster, 28, of 97 Parnell rd, daur of Joseph Nathaniel Higgins, deceased, butcher. Witnesses George Higgins, Harriet Higgins.


Name: Ann Elmore Cary
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Spouse Name: Dan Cove
Spouse Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1890
Parish: St Mary, Battersea
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Thomas Cary
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Cove

LATER EDIT: Dan Cove, bach, 31, labourer, of 14 Trott St, son of Thomas Cove, deceased, labourer, and Ann Elmore Cary, spinster, 27, of the same address, daur of Thomas Cary deceased, artificial manure manufacturer. Witnesses George Larkin, Mary Jane Larkin, Edith Eldon Cary.

Hello Kucinta,
You're a star. Many thanks for all the information forwarded.
Once again your time is very much appreciated. Interesting that all the children are baptised in the parish they wed.
Bye
Paul

BATCH BAPTISM JOB:

Name: Edward Lucins Cary
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1862
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1862
Father's name: Thomas Cary
Mother's name: Sarah Cary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Born Oct 10 1858.


Name: James Stafford Cary
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1862
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1862
Father's name: Thomas Cary
Mother's name: Sarah Cary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Born July 7th 1860

Name: Mary Ann Pickering Cary
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1862
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1862
Father's name: Thomas Cary
Mother's name: Sarah Cary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Born Dec 23 1855.

Father an agricultural chemist. Address St Paul's Rd Limehouse Middx. info the same for all other children in this batch baptism.



Name: Thomas Cary
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1862
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1862
Father's name: Thomas Cary
Mother's name: Sarah Cary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets.
Born July 13th 1857


TWO SINGLE BAPTISMS:


Name: Ann Elmose Cary
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1867
Baptism Date: 22 Sep 1867
Father's name: Thomas Cary
Mother's name: Sarah Cary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Born illegible 1863. Family 25 St Pauls Rd. Father artificial manure manufacture

Name: Sarah Cary
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1869
Baptism Date: 14 Feb 1869
Father's name: Thomas Cary
Mother's name: Sarah Cary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Born 6th Nov 1868. still St Paul's road, father an agricultural chemist.

Hello Kucinta,
Many thanks for the detailed information especially the father's names. It is very much appreciated.
Bye
Paul

marriage:

Name: Sarah Ary
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Spouse Name: Thomas Cary
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 05 Aug 1855
Parish: Holy Trinity Minories
County: Surrey
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Ary
Spouse Father Name: Edward Cary

Thomas Cary, full age, widower, Traveller, of Will Close Square son of Edward Cary, Toll collector, and Sarah Ary, spinster, of full age, also of Will Close Square, daur of James Ary brewer. Witnesses Thomas Kennett and Joseph Smith White.

Hello Mike,
From the information on the following I am hoping to find out if these are all the children on Thomas & Sarah Cary.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Birth, Baptism & Christening

Name: Joseph Cary
Mother: Sarah Cary
Father: Thomas Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, London

Name: Edward Lucins Cary
Mother: Sarah Cary
Father: Thomas Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: James Stafford Cary
Mother: Sarah Cary
Father: Thomas Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Mary Ann Pickering Cary
Mother: Sarah Cary
Father: Thomas Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Thomas Cary
Mother: Sarah Cary
Father: Thomas Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Ann Elmose Cary
Mother: Sarah Cary
Father: Thomas Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Sarah Cary
Mother: Sarah Cary
Father: Thomas Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Thomas Cary
Parents: Thomas Cary
Sarah Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Robert Cary
Parents: Thomas Cary
Sarah Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Anne Cary
Parents: Thomas Cary
Sarah Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Name: Bridget Cary
County: Middlesex
Name: Bridget Cary
Parents: Thomas Cary
Sarah Cary
Birth: year
Baptism: date - city, Middlesex


Thanks
Paul

Hello Flick,
Your comment made me look again and try another option. I knew she had married again and what the name of her second husband was. A second search led me back to finding that her maiden name which was Ary ( as shown on freebmd) but I had dismissed it believing that he maiden name was Nicholson.
Thanks for the prompting.
Bye
Paul

Start with the children.
Do you have names and dates for them ?

Where did you get Sarah's name from ?

Hello Flick,
Because I cannot find the marriage on freebmd?
Thanks
Paul

Why not look on freebmd for the marriage?

Hello All,
I'm looking for the marriage of a Thomas Cary and Sarah (Nicholson?) b1834 West Ham, London. If she was of full age then it would be about 1855.
Ancestry's "London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 and London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921" appear to show the baptism dates for their children and some of the children's marriages. Unfortunately for me I do not have access to the full information on Ancestry so I would be very grateful if someone could kindly look them up on my behalf.
Many thanks
Paul