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Jayne
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11 Nov 2010 13:00 |
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Please can you help im trying to find a William Lomas parents William Lomas was born around 1863 on is marriage cert is father's name is William Lomas as well, he got married in 1887 He was born Yorks Worsbro Dale it says on the 1911 census Thanks
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Flick
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11 Nov 2010 13:02 |
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Have you looked for them together in 1881?
It's free on www.familysearch.org
What was the father's occupation?
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Flick
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11 Nov 2010 13:06 |
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Is this the family in 1871?
Name: Wm Lomas Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's name: Wm Lomas Mother's name: Harriet Lomas Gender: Male Where born: Worsbro Dale Civil Parish: Worsborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsborough ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age Wm Lomas 40 born Manchester, Occ: Coal Miner Harriet Lomas 42 born Worsbro dale Sarah Lomas 16 Agusta Lomas 14 Wm Lomas 10 Harriet Lomas 7
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Jayne
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11 Nov 2010 13:08 |
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Father's Occ was Miner Thanks
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Jayne
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11 Nov 2010 13:09 |
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Thank you Flick thats the one's super Thanks Again
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Flick
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11 Nov 2010 13:12 |
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Interesting.......1861
Name: Augusta Mayo [Augusta Lomas] Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mayo Mother's name: Harriet Mayo Gender: Female Where born: Worsborough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Worsbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 97 Household Members: Name Age William Mayo 26 Harriet Mayo 30 Job Mayo 17 George Mayo 15 Ellen Mayo 10 Isabella Mayo 8 Sarah Mayo 6 Augusta Mayo 4
Just going to check the image................
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It's definitely MAYO on the image....very clear.
William says born Wigan.............occ: Coal Miner
NB.........The elder 'children' simply CAN'T be William and Harriet's offspring
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MargaretM
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11 Nov 2010 13:13 |
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I guess this is the marriage? Barnsley district covers Worsborough. Did he marry Kate or Martha?
Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOCKLEY Kate Barnsley 9c 304 LOMAS William Barnsley 9c 304 PRIME Martha Barnsley 9c 304 RACE Joseph Barnsley 9c 304
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Jayne
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11 Nov 2010 13:36 |
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Flick how can this be but Mayo did get mentioned way back by a old family member who said leave it alone When my nan was trying to do familey tree many year back Thanks
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Jayne
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11 Nov 2010 13:39 |
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He married Kate Thanks
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Flick
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11 Nov 2010 14:05 |
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Well, someone must know something, as the additional info has been posted on Ancestry........I'll try to find out who posted it.
In the meantime..................
Name: Augusta Mayo Year of Registration: 1857 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Barnsley County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 146
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Flick
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11 Nov 2010 14:09 |
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This is the correction info
Lomas rather than Mayo C51 and C71 has Lomas not Mayo. Very odd! Submitted by PhilpottsMayoh on 06/01/2006
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Jayne
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11 Nov 2010 14:19 |
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Thanks Flick Looking forward to what you can find out This is very strange Thanks
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Nov 2010 14:24 |
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There was a thread on here about 6/12 months ago about this family and the surname change with Lomas and Mayo from this area.......... I think a female Lomas/Mayo married Joseph Wright.
I'll see if I can find the thread.
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Nov 2010 14:27 |
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Here's the thread;
http://www.genesreunited.com/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1209160
Jayne if you copy and paste this into your search bar it should bring the thread up.
Added; Patricia had quite a lot of threads on Joseph Wright and Ellen Lomas, if you go to advanced search and type these names in the threads will come up.
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Jayne
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11 Nov 2010 15:47 |
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How could this be or has anybody got any idea please can you help HI FLICK,ELLEN LOMAS WAS BORN APPROX 1850 I HAVE HER MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE DATED DECEMBER 1870,SHE WAS AGED 20YEARS WHEN SHE MARRIED,JOSEPH WRIGHT THEY MARRIED IN THE WORSBROUGH DALE AREA,IN THE PARISH OF DARFIELD WOULD LIKE TO TRACE HER PARENTS,IT STATES HER FATHER AS WILLIAM LOMAS A MINER THATS ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE REGARDS PAT. Add Catherine 8th March 2010 10:46 Request review
This looks to be her in 1871:-
Name: Ellen Wright Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Worsbro Dale, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Worsborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Worsborough Dale County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsborough ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wright 23 Ellen Wright 20 George Wright 2 weeks
so she was born in Worsborough, Yorkshire! Add Catherine 8th March 2010 10:47 Request review
Possible 1861:-
1861 England Census about Ellen Mayo Name: Ellen Mayo [Ellen Lomas] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Harriet Gender: Female Where born: Worsborough, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Worsbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Worsbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 97 Household Members: Name Age William Mayo 26 - Coal Miner born: Wigan, Lancashire Harriet Mayo 30 - born: Worsborough, Yorkshire Job Mayo 17 - born: Worsborough, Yorkshire George Mayo 15 Ellen Mayo 10 Isabella Mayo 8 Sarah Mayo 6 Augusta Mayo 4
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THANK YOU SO MUCH CATHERINE VERY INFORMATIVE WILL LOOK INTO ALL THIS KIND REGARDS PAT. Add Catherine 8th March 2010 11:03 Request review
Patricia, Just want to point out that there seems to be a bit of a problem with ages here. It would make William only 9yrs old when he had his first child, but original census does give ages as 26yrs for William and 30yrs for Harriet. Add Catherine 8th March 2010 11:34 Request review
Looks like them in 1851:-
Name: Harriott Seddons Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Worsbro Dale, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Worsbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 136 Household Members: Name Age Harriott Seddons 26 born: Worsbro Dale, Yorkshire (Widow - living on Parish Relief) Job Seddons 7 George Seddons 6 Sarah Seddons 1 William Lumas 22 born (1829): Wigan, Lancashire (Lodger) -Coal Miner
Birth for Job:- Births Mar 1844 (>99%) SEDDONS Job Ecclesfield 22 17_ The district Ecclesfield is an alternative name for Ecclesfield and it is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire This was the reg.district for Worsborough at this time.
Christening for Sarah:- Sarah Maria Seddons - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 27 MAY 1849 Worsborough, Yorkshire, England Father: James Seddons Mother: Harriet
and her death:- Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%) Siddons Sarah Maria Barnsley 22 25 Add Catherine 8th March 2010 11:41 Request review
Good possibility for first marriage of Harriet:-
Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%) PARROT Ann Ecclesfield 22 91 ROOKE Charles Ecclesfield 22 91 xxxx SIDDENS James Ecclesfield 22 91 SMITH Elizabeth Ecclesfield 22 91 SOKIL William Ecclesfield 22 91 TAYLOR Elizabeth Ecclesfield 22 91 xxxx WINDER Harriet Ecclesfield 22 91 WINDER William Ecclesfield 22 91
possible death of James:- Deaths Mar 1849 (>99%) SIDDONS James Ecclesfield 22 144 Add Catherine 8th March 2010 11:46 Request review
Possible christening for Harriet:-
HARRIOT WINDER Female
Event(s): Birth: Christening: 26 OCT 1823 Saint Mary, Barnsley, Yorkshire, England
Parents: Father: BENJAMIN WINDER Mother: SARAH Add Catherine 8th March 2010 14:17 Request review
Bit of a mystery about William! 1851 census shows his name as Lomas, but this could be why the family are noted as Mayo in the 1861 census:-
Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%) Johnson Elizabeth Barnsley 22 12 xxxx Mayo William Barnsley 22 12 Parkin Edward Barnsley 22 12 Shillito Thomas Barnsley 22 12 xxxx Siddons Harriet Barnsley 22 12 Uttley Charlotte Barnsley 22 12 Wall Elizabeth Barnsley 22 12 Wilkinson Thomas Barnsley 22 12
You'll probably need to buy a few certs. to get to the bottom of it!
this would probably be Ellen's birth:- Births Sep 1851 Meyo Ellen Barnsley 22 33
unless these are two completely different families as there is this birth also?
Births Sep 1852 Lomas Ellen Bradford 9b 122 Add Patricia 8th March 2010 19:59 Request review
THANKYOU THANK YOU FOR THE I
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Nov 2010 16:40 |
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Hi Jayne,
The name change maybe that William's mother was married previously and William took his stepfathers name and then reverted back... for a while anyway??
This maybe William in 1841??
1841 England Census about William Lomas Name: William Lomas Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wigan Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
View image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Aspull Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ellen Lomas 40 Robert Lomas 15 William Lomas 10 Serena Lomas 7 Ellen Lomas 11 MO
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Nov 2010 16:56 |
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And is this Williams brother living in the same area in 1851?
1851 England Census about Robert Lumas Name: Robert Lumas Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Prestige, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Worsbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 142 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Winter 64 Henry Winter 25 Henry Winter 7 Robert Lumas 24 Thomas Priestley 26
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