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William Lomas parents

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Jayne

Jayne Report 11 Nov 2010 13:00

Please can you help im trying to find a William Lomas parents
William Lomas was born around 1863 on is marriage cert is father's name is William Lomas as well, he got married in 1887
He was born Yorks Worsbro Dale it says on the 1911 census
Thanks

Flick

Flick Report 11 Nov 2010 13:02

Have you looked for them together in 1881?

It's free on www.familysearch.org

What was the father's occupation?

Flick

Flick Report 11 Nov 2010 13:06

Is this the family in 1871?

Name: Wm Lomas
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's name: Wm Lomas
Mother's name: Harriet Lomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Worsbro Dale
Civil Parish: Worsborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Worsborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Lomas 40 born Manchester, Occ: Coal Miner
Harriet Lomas 42 born Worsbro dale
Sarah Lomas 16
Agusta Lomas 14
Wm Lomas 10
Harriet Lomas 7


Jayne

Jayne Report 11 Nov 2010 13:08

Father's Occ was Miner
Thanks

Jayne

Jayne Report 11 Nov 2010 13:09

Thank you Flick thats the one's super
Thanks Again

Flick

Flick Report 11 Nov 2010 13:12

Interesting.......1861

Name: Augusta Mayo
[Augusta Lomas]
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Mayo
Mother's name: Harriet Mayo
Gender: Female
Where born: Worsborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Worsbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Worsbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
William Mayo 26
Harriet Mayo 30
Job Mayo 17
George Mayo 15
Ellen Mayo 10
Isabella Mayo 8
Sarah Mayo 6
Augusta Mayo 4


Just going to check the image................

EDIT:

It's definitely MAYO on the image....very clear.

William says born Wigan.............occ: Coal Miner

NB.........The elder 'children' simply CAN'T be William and Harriet's offspring

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Nov 2010 13:13

I guess this is the marriage? Barnsley district covers Worsborough. Did he marry Kate or Martha?

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LOCKLEY Kate Barnsley 9c 304
LOMAS William Barnsley 9c 304
PRIME Martha Barnsley 9c 304
RACE Joseph Barnsley 9c 304

Jayne

Jayne Report 11 Nov 2010 13:36

Flick how can this be but Mayo did get mentioned way back by a old family member who said leave it alone
When my nan was trying to do familey tree many year back
Thanks

Jayne

Jayne Report 11 Nov 2010 13:39

He married Kate
Thanks

Flick

Flick Report 11 Nov 2010 14:05

Well, someone must know something, as the additional info has been posted on Ancestry........I'll try to find out who posted it.

In the meantime..................

Name: Augusta Mayo
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Barnsley
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 146

Flick

Flick Report 11 Nov 2010 14:09

This is the correction info

Lomas rather than Mayo
C51 and C71 has Lomas not Mayo. Very odd!
Submitted by PhilpottsMayoh on 06/01/2006

Jayne

Jayne Report 11 Nov 2010 14:19

Thanks Flick
Looking forward to what you can find out
This is very strange
Thanks

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Nov 2010 14:24

There was a thread on here about 6/12 months ago about this family and the surname change with Lomas and Mayo from this area.......... I think a female Lomas/Mayo married Joseph Wright.

I'll see if I can find the thread.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Nov 2010 14:27

Here's the thread;

http://www.genesreunited.com/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1209160

Jayne if you copy and paste this into your search bar it should bring the thread up.

Added; Patricia had quite a lot of threads on Joseph Wright and Ellen Lomas, if you go to advanced search and type these names in the threads will come up.


Dee x

Jayne

Jayne Report 11 Nov 2010 15:47

How could this be or has anybody got any idea
please can you help
HI FLICK,ELLEN LOMAS WAS BORN APPROX 1850 I HAVE HER MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE DATED DECEMBER 1870,SHE WAS AGED 20YEARS WHEN SHE MARRIED,JOSEPH WRIGHT THEY MARRIED IN THE WORSBROUGH DALE AREA,IN THE PARISH OF DARFIELD WOULD LIKE TO TRACE HER PARENTS,IT STATES HER FATHER AS WILLIAM LOMAS A MINER THATS ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE REGARDS PAT.
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Catherine 8th March 2010 10:46 Request review

This looks to be her in 1871:-

Name: Ellen Wright
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Worsbro Dale, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Worsborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Worsborough Dale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Worsborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Wright 23
Ellen Wright 20
George Wright 2 weeks

so she was born in Worsborough, Yorkshire!
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Catherine 8th March 2010 10:47 Request review

Possible 1861:-


1861 England Census
about Ellen Mayo
Name: Ellen Mayo
[Ellen Lomas]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Female
Where born: Worsborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Worsbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Worsbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mayo 26 - Coal Miner born: Wigan, Lancashire
Harriet Mayo 30 - born: Worsborough, Yorkshire
Job Mayo 17 - born: Worsborough, Yorkshire
George Mayo 15
Ellen Mayo 10
Isabella Mayo 8
Sarah Mayo 6
Augusta Mayo 4

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Patricia 8th March 2010 10:57 Request review

THANK YOU SO MUCH CATHERINE VERY INFORMATIVE WILL LOOK INTO ALL THIS KIND REGARDS PAT.
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Catherine 8th March 2010 11:03 Request review

Patricia,
Just want to point out that there seems to be a bit of a problem with ages here. It would make William only 9yrs old when he had his first child, but original census does give ages as 26yrs for William and 30yrs for Harriet.
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Catherine 8th March 2010 11:34 Request review

Looks like them in 1851:-

Name: Harriott Seddons
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Worsbro Dale, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Worsbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Darfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriott Seddons 26 born: Worsbro Dale, Yorkshire (Widow - living on Parish Relief)
Job Seddons 7
George Seddons 6
Sarah Seddons 1
William Lumas 22 born (1829): Wigan, Lancashire (Lodger) -Coal Miner


Birth for Job:-
Births Mar 1844 (>99%)
SEDDONS Job Ecclesfield 22 17_
The district Ecclesfield is an alternative name for Ecclesfield and it is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire
This was the reg.district for Worsborough at this time.


Christening for Sarah:-
Sarah Maria Seddons - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 MAY 1849 Worsborough, Yorkshire, England
Father: James Seddons
Mother: Harriet

and her death:-
Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%)
Siddons Sarah Maria Barnsley 22 25
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Catherine 8th March 2010 11:41 Request review

Good possibility for first marriage of Harriet:-

Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%)
PARROT Ann Ecclesfield 22 91
ROOKE Charles Ecclesfield 22 91
xxxx SIDDENS James Ecclesfield 22 91
SMITH Elizabeth Ecclesfield 22 91
SOKIL William Ecclesfield 22 91
TAYLOR Elizabeth Ecclesfield 22 91
xxxx WINDER Harriet Ecclesfield 22 91
WINDER William Ecclesfield 22 91


possible death of James:-
Deaths Mar 1849 (>99%)
SIDDONS James Ecclesfield 22 144
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Catherine 8th March 2010 11:46 Request review

Possible christening for Harriet:-

HARRIOT WINDER
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 OCT 1823 Saint Mary, Barnsley, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: BENJAMIN WINDER
Mother: SARAH
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Catherine 8th March 2010 14:17 Request review

Bit of a mystery about William! 1851 census shows his name as Lomas, but this could be why the family are noted as Mayo in the 1861 census:-

Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%)
Johnson Elizabeth Barnsley 22 12
xxxx Mayo William Barnsley 22 12
Parkin Edward Barnsley 22 12
Shillito Thomas Barnsley 22 12
xxxx Siddons Harriet Barnsley 22 12
Uttley Charlotte Barnsley 22 12
Wall Elizabeth Barnsley 22 12
Wilkinson Thomas Barnsley 22 12

You'll probably need to buy a few certs. to get to the bottom of it!

this would probably be Ellen's birth:-
Births Sep 1851
Meyo Ellen Barnsley 22 33

unless these are two completely different families as there is this birth also?

Births Sep 1852
Lomas Ellen Bradford 9b 122
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Patricia 8th March 2010 19:59 Request review

THANKYOU THANK YOU FOR THE I

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Nov 2010 16:40

Hi Jayne,

The name change maybe that William's mother was married previously and William took his stepfathers name and then reverted back... for a while anyway??

This maybe William in 1841??

1841 England Census about William Lomas
Name: William Lomas
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Aspull
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Lomas 40
Robert Lomas 15
William Lomas 10
Serena Lomas 7
Ellen Lomas 11 MO


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Nov 2010 16:56

And is this Williams brother living in the same area in 1851?

1851 England Census about Robert Lumas
Name: Robert Lumas
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Prestige, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Worsbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Darfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 142
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Winter 64
Henry Winter 25
Henry Winter 7
Robert Lumas 24
Thomas Priestley 26