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Bertha's baptism:
Bertha Annie Haynes
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1898
Father's name: George Haynes
Mother's name: Annie Haynes
Bethnal Green St Barnabas
Tower Hamlets

Sadly no - with extensive searching - I think she could well be one that died, However as there is a death for a Lilian of the right age I do wonder whether the parents called her eventually after her sister name

Many thanks to ALL who helped on this thread , did anyone find Bertha Annie Haynes age 13 years born in Bethnal Green , London on the 1911 census?

Thanks Vera

1891

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HAYNES, George Head Married M 27 1864 Chemical Labourer
Bucknell
Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, Annie Wife Married F 26 1865
Bow
London VIEW
HAYNES, Gertrude Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891
Belvedere
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
267 Folio:
16 Page:
26

Registration District:
Bethnal Green Sub District:
Bethnal Green East Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James the Less

Civil Parish:
Bethnal Green Municipal Borough:
North East Bethnal Green Address:
51, Sewardstone Road, Bethnal Green, North East Bethnal Green County:
London


Regards Vera

Many thanks , I know Annie had 5 children but not 6 --mmm? Wonder where the other one is then , I have Gertrude b.1890 , Joseph b.1893 , Lily b.1896 , Bertha b.1898 and Mabel/Maud b.1900/1 I have the birth certs. for Gertrude , Joseph , Bertha and Lily. I know Lily was born 1896 and I see she has taken 1 year off her birth in 1911. I suppose Mabel/Maud Violet died and so did Bertha Annie , I have a death for a Maud Violet in Dartford , Kent which may be her , I will egt the death cert. to confirm , but I haven't found a death for a Bertha Annie Haynes , she was born in Bethnal Green in 1898 but not on the 1901 census.

1901

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HAYNES, George Head Married M 38 1863 Chemical Labourer
St Brickhill
Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, Annie Wife Married F 36 1865 Tailoress
Bow
London VIEW
HAYNES, Gertrude Daughter Single F 10 1891
Bethnal Green
London VIEW
HAYNES, Lillie Daughter Single F 3 1898
Bethnal Green
London VIEW
HAYNES, Mable Daughter Single F 0 (5 MOS) 1901
Bow
London VIEW
HAYNES, Joseph Son Single M 8 1893
Bow
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
293 Folio:
30 Page:
49

Registration District:
Bethnal Green Sub District:
Bethnal Green East Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Barnabas

Civil Parish:
Bethnal Green Municipal Borough:
Address:
67, Ellesmere Road, Bethnal Green County:
London



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census search results 1901 address search
Regards Vera

So maybe Bertha was Lilian???

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Deaths Sep 1897 (>99%)
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Haynes Lilian 1 Bethnal G. 1c 163


Regards Vera

Given the age in 1911 could Lilian be Bertha or is this another child?

Edit - Presumably this was lilian

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Haynes Lilian Mary A Bethnal G. 1c 153

Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Haynes Maud 1 Dartford 2a 365


Regards Vera

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Haynes Maud Violet Bethnal Green 1c 211



Regards Vera

Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Haynes Bertha Annie Bethnal G. 1c 238


Regards Vera

1911??? They are listed as having had 6 children and of this 3 were still alive

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HAYNES, George Head Married
21 years M 46 1865 Labour Great Brickell Bucks VIEW
HAYNES, Hannah Wife Married F 44 1867 Laundry York Rd London VIEW
HAYNES, Lilian Daughter Single F 13 1898 Laundry London VIEW
WATSON, Albert Son In Law Married M 27 1884 Labour Tunbridge Wells VIEW
WASTON, Gartrude Daughter Married F 20 1891 Ironer Belvedere Kent VIEW
WASTON, Lelin Grandson Single M 1 1910 Belvedere Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3756 Reference:
RG14PN3756 RG78PN142 RD43 SD2 ED16 SN147

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Erith Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Erith

Address:
1 Stony Hill Belvedere County:
Kent

Bertha Annie and Maud Violet are both children of George and Annie Haynes , I THINK Maud died in 1902 in Dartford , Kent but I haven't got the death cert. to confirm this but I have no idea about Bertha Annie , would her age of 13 put her too young for service?

George Haynes would be 50 and Annie 46 years.

Do you know the age of George or Annie and the parents of Bertha and Maud?

Could someone look up George and Annie Haynes in 1911 , they may be in Dartgord , Kent. I am interested in how many births Annie had. They may be with their daughters Gertrude Watson , her husband and child , and the other daughter Lily. Also while you are on the 1911 census , can I be very cheeky and ask if you can see a Bertha Annie Haynes or Maud Violet Haynes anywhere , they were born in Bethnal Green ,London in 1898 and 1901 respectively but I can't find them anywhere. Many Thanks