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Hi Joanne,
Did you notice the date of Joys last post might be better to send her a PM af she is still a member GR will notify her

No worries about getting carried away Marion, I do like to know who the bride's parents are if possible.

Getting carried away here lol

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SAMUEL HATFIELD Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNA ALLEN Family
Marriage:
05 MAR 1797 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

do you have this?..

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SUSANNA HATFIELD Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
11 APR 1803 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: SAMUEL HATFIELD Family
Mother: SUSANNA

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date

Theres two trees on ancestry have her death as 1871.Richard 1865.

Yes, that's them. They had 3 boys, 2 of whom died as babys the other aged c28 in 1855.

This them?

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RICHARD WOMACK Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNA HATFIELD Family
Marriage:
31 AUG 1826 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Yes she should be a widow in 1871 unless she re-married. Have tried every version of the Womack name I can think off the top of my head.

So she should be a widow in 1871?

Deaths Sep 1865
Womack Richard Birmingham 6d 65

Thanks for all the help so far with Eliza. I tell you some of these Womacks do my head in. For the life of me I can't find this lady post 1861.

1861 for reference:


Name: Susannah Womack
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Richards Womack
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Bishop Ryder
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Richards Womack 56
Susannah Womack 57

Joy..


confirmation that the Eliza Womack born Stannington does belong to Thomas and Sarah

ELIZA WOMACK Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 SEP 1851 Stannington, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS WOMACK Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.



Nicky

Haven't completely discounted the Eliza born in Stannington, though I think this is more likely her family in 1861

Name: Eliza Womack
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Womack
Mother's name: Sarah Womack
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Bradfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Womack 55
Sarah Womack 42
Hugh Womack 22
Thomas Womack 18
Richard Womack 14
Alfred Womack 12
Joseph Womack 11
Eliza Womack 9
Mary Womack 7
Matilda Womack 6
Lenor Womack 2


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Same family in 1871

Name: Thomas Womack
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Womack
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bradfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Stannington
Town: Stannington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Bradfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13f
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Womack 65
Sarah Womack 52
William Womack 26
Alfred Womack 22
Joseph Womack 21
Matilda Womack 15
Selena Womack 12


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1891: Eliza Axelby Francis abt 1852 Stannington, Yorkshire, England Wife Heeley, Yorkshire
1901: Eliza Axelby Francis abt 1852 Stannington, Yorkshire, England Wife Heeley, Yorkshire


Added:
1881: Eliza Ilby Francis abt 1851 Stannington, Yorkshire, England Wife Heeley, Yorkshire [Axilby on image]

If the 1871 entry in Sheffield that Jenny gave you is correct, then could this be her marriage?

Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
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Axeiby Francis Sheffield 9c 671
Axelby Francis Sheffield 9c 671
HAGUE Harriet Sheffield 9c 671
Watkin Frederick Sheffield 9c 671
Womack Eliza Sheffield 9c 671



Nicky

Have you dismissed this one?
1871 Census

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
MACIDEE, Annie Wife F 28 1843 Scotland VIEW
MACIDEE, Robert W Son M 3 1868 Yorkshire VIEW
MACIDEE, Andrew Wm Son M 1 1870 Yorkshire VIEW
MACIDEE, Wm M Brother-In-Law M 18 1853 Scotland VIEW
WOMACK, Eliza Servant F 19 1852 Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
4670 Folio:
176 Page:
37

Registration District:
Ecclesall Bierlow Sub District:
Ecclesall Bierlow Enumeration District:
21 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Ecclesall Bierlow Municipal Borough:
Sheffield Address:
New Porter Street, Ecclesall Bierlow, Sheffield County:
Yorkshire


Jenny

I delted the last post as it was wrong.
This looks like parents marriage. As Sarah Whalley 88 on 61 census is mother-in-law.

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JOHN WOMACK Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH WHALLEY Family
Marriage:
28 MAY 1834 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Could she perhaps have been 'Elizabeth'- officially?

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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Bell Tom Doncaster 9c 779
DAWSON Frederick Doncaster 9c 779
Kirk Betsey Doncaster 9c 779
Womack Elizabeth Doncaster 9c 779

I have one missing distant relative I can't find anything for post 1861 Census. Can anyone crack the case.

1861 for reference:

Name: Eliza Womack
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Womack
Mother's name: Sarah Womack
Gender: Female
Where born: Bawtry, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bawtry
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Bawtry
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
John Womack 49
Sarah Womack 50
Emma W Womack 21
Geo W Womack 13
Eliza Womack 11
Chal H Womack 9
Sarah Womack 7
Sarah Whalley 88