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THOMAS ELMS
Spouse: ELISABETH UNDERWOOD
Marriage: 19 DEC 1808 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England

Thanks i had seen the above. There is a person who seems to be very illusive. Thomas Elmes Born 1778
married an Elizabeth Groom or similar surname. In all
trees i have viewed this persons surname is inconsistent.
Without anyone spending hours would it be possible to verify this name and any details that may show. Thanks!! Ron

familysearch.org has 4 baptisms in Beaconfield to Thomas Elm(e)s and Anne ..... but interestingly, they don't seem to have Thomas'


1. WILLIAM ELMS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 JUN 1782 Beaconsfield, Buckingham, England

2. SUSANNA ELMS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 AUG 1791 Beaconsfield, Buckingham, England

3. DANIEL FAINWICK ELMES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 NOV 1775 Beaconsfield, Buckingham, England

4. JAMES ELMS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 AUG 1785 Beaconsfield, Buckingham, England




sylvia

poss connection? 1881

John ELMES Head M Male 43 Aylesbury, Buckingham, England Carpenter
Naomi ELMES Wife M Female 42 Ashton, Northampton, England
Elizabeth ELMES Daur U Female 18 Aylesbury, Buckingham, England
William ELMES Son Male 15 Aylesbury, Buckingham, England
Kate ELMES Daur Female 13 Stony Stratford, Buckingham, England Scholar
Thomas ELMES Son Male 12 Stony Stratford, Buckingham, England Scholar
Eliza ELMES Daur Female 4 m Stony Stratford, Buckingham, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling King St Wolverton Rd
Census Place Wolverton, Buckingham, England
Family History Library Film 1341371
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1539 / 39
Page Number 18

Ron


you are very welcome!


as Dea said, we're all just members like yourself, but we enjoy helping others



Of course



some might say that we are just plain nosy :))))





sylvia

Hi again Ron,

Judging by the middle name of their first child, and, provided it can be proved that the three christenings are actually brothers, then I would suspect that this is the parents' marriage:

Buckinghamshire, England, Extracted Parish Records
about Thos. Elms Ann Fenwick Text: Thos. Elms, of Beaconsfield, & Ann Fenwick, lic. 14 Jul 1774
Book: March Buried (Burial)
Collection: Buckinghamshire: - Registers of Marriages, 1605-1837

Dea x

P.S. - Record found on Ancestry site.

Dea x

You are very welcome Ron,

We are just members of this site, like yourself but there are lots of us who enjoy helping other people with their trees where we can.

If you need any more help, just come back to the 'Trying to Find' board and ask.

Dea x

Thanks Dea Sylvia Julie etc.
Well i have gone from the verge of cancelation. to utter
amazement at the help received. May i humbly thank you all. Ron

It looks like he may have had a couple of brothers?

Name: Daniel Fainwick Elmes
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Nov 1775
Baptism/Christening Place: BEACONSFIELD,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND

Father's Name: Thomas Elmes
Mother's Name: Anne
.....................

Name: William Elms
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Jun 1782
Baptism/Christening Place: BEACONSFIELD,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND

Father's Name: Thomas Elms
Mother's Name: Anne


Dea x

Hi Shaba1,

This seems to be his christening record.?

Name: Thomas Elms
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Oct 1779
Baptism/Christening Place: BEACONSFIELD,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND

Father's Name: Thomas Elms
Mother's Name: Anne

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04168-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 933459
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Found on this site:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#

It is a free site - you may find more info on there.

Dea x

Ron

To answer your question on sites.

I find my subscription to ancestry.co.uk to be invaluable

Other people prefer findmypast.com

Both might seem to be pretty expensive ......... but in my opinion and that of many others,one or other of these sites is a must.


You might want to try the Mormon site, it is free

www.familysearch.org ..................... especially the International Genealogical Index.

Go to the Home Page, Click on Advanced Search, Scroll down to International Genealogical Index

Do please be very careful to distinguish between Extracted and Submitted records

Extracted records have been taken from the actual parish registers.

Submitted records have been sent in by individuals, usually members of the LDS church, and have NO backing documentation ...... many of them may even be made up to fit known facts!


Try the Mormon new site, also free

beta.familysearch.org/


Julie gave you the Hugh Wallis site .... also free, but not updated since about 2004.


There is an Online Parish Clerks Project (also known as opc) ....... attempting to get information from old parish registers online. Also free

Work is very patchy ...... Lancashire (my home county) has a lot of information


Google "Buckinghamshire opc" and see what you can get


You might want to try the Buckinghamshire Family History Society .... they are very active. My father's family originates in 3 small villages in Buckinghamshire, but I was lucky in that my brother and cousin did an incredible amount of work in the "old" days (ie, 1980s), and I have not so far had to test the FHS!

To be honest, this site does not carry any records ..... it re-directs you to other sites.


Most of the people who help on here have only the basic membership ....... enough to build our trees, send and receive messages through the site, and post on these boards.



I have to go to bed, it's after midnight here in Canada and OH has to get up early in the morning to go "work" as a volunteer at an Apple Festival!


I hope you will have recieved more help by the time I am awake tomorrow




sylvia

Ron

sometimes strange things happen ....... I've found that I sometimes catch either the ALT or CTRL key with the edge of my finger as I type away ..... 3 fingered and having to look at all the keys.


Then I look up and everyhting's gone! And that is what hitting one of those 2 keys can do!


I was of the generation that wasn't allowed to learn typing ... that was for the less academic students ............... so I taught myself! But I'm not a touch typist.





sylvia

You could have a look at this site

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm

Thanks Sylvia
I am annoyed to say the least but i will respond due to your personal efforts. Thank you sincerely.
I mean by editing the name of the person , year of birth,
Location of birth did not appear in my post.
Now i will try again in a different way. The name was Thomas Elmes who was born in 1778 at i believe to be Beaconsfield Buckinghamshire.

Ron

what do you mean edited??


Did you post the message on either the Surname or History board? The Surname board shows the name of the person in a header line


We are now looking at it on the Trying to Find board. The two boards are somehow linked (don't ask me why or how!!).


BUT the header line with the person's name does NOT show on the TTF board.




There is no editing on this site ...... if they don't like what you've posted they delete it in its entirety!


Please ppost the information again ... on this thread! Please don't start another thread!!




sylvia

sylvia etc
It would seem that my question has offended this site.
Hence the reason my question does not mke sense because it has beeb edited

Ron

we might be able to help, if you had only given us a name to work with ....... plus preferably date of birth/marriage, and location!



But I think I can say with some certainty that this site per se is NOT helpful for you.


Having said that ........ these boards, with the corps of volunteers all willing to help, ARE the best thing about this site.



Please post what you know and what you wish to find ........... and check back every 2 or 3 minutes for the frst 10 or so minutes after posting


and you might be amazed at the help you get ....... which could range from telling you where to go to actually providing you with the facts.

We're all members just like yourself, but possibly with a little more experience, and subscriptions to many other sites, plus knowledge of many other places to find information.



sylvia

can you give details of this person - name, dob and a location plese

This is the earliest person i have on my tree. I am keen to go back earlier than this. Can anyone advise a Geneology Site
that may be of assistance. Or if the answer is more simple, does this site provide the path of information.Thanks Ron