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Robert
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9 Dec 2010 10:07 |
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hi janet thankyou very much for your detective work i thought anne may have had a differsnt maiden name never thoight of it being her true name. i was a member of hdfhs but not being able to get to meltham i let my membership lapse perhaps i should rejoin i will look on their site and see iam more intrested in tracing as many relatives as i can regards bob
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Janet
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7 Dec 2010 13:12 |
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Hi Bob Information confirmed. William Jessop married Ann Jessop on 15th Sept 1806 at Kirkheaton Parish The witnesses were Mark of X Abraham Waring and Robert Dollive The only Ann Jessop which fits in the time frame is Ann Jessop born dau of Richard Jessop bapt. 26th Dec 1787 . There are two Richard Jessop in the time frame but through elimination I would say the parents of this Ann were Richard Jessop Clothier and Rebecca Beaumont of Lepton. More importantly the death of this Ann Jessop Jessop is 1st May 1822 aged 34. This is six months before a William Jessop married a Charlotte Kaye at the same church. No- it isn't solid proof that her husband went onto marry Charlotte, but it is still a possibility. When you say that your William Jessop was born 1785 is this a presumption because he may have got married aged 21. Whilst the jury might still be out on William I think that this is the right Ann Jessop, mother of Charles born 1811. Finding more about the Jessop family, unless you know for definite that they were Quakers, you could buy transcriptions from the Huddersfield FHS. Each booklet costs about £2-50. It depends on how deeply you want to go but there seemed to be a few Jessops in Kirkheaton in these books which I looked at yesterday. Good luck with your search. Jle
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Robert
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6 Dec 2010 13:08 |
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hi janet i have just joined the quaker family history site not much info on there lots of refs to william not my one unfortunatly on qhfs site records kept hull uni versaty .i did find somthings on the mormon site family historynothing to prove william is father or d o b. only other poss lead william father joseph jeseph i thank you for all the hard work regards bob
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Janet
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6 Dec 2010 10:28 |
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Hi Bob- it might be, as there seems to be duplicate names around this area that if they were quakers the information would not have been registered in the Parish Church. If I get time I might try to call at the HuddFHS and see if there is any more information there. I recently called at the library and was told that all the information on the Quakers is now kept at the National Archives in Kew.-Jle
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Robert
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6 Dec 2010 10:08 |
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hi janet i found carles on afew family trees ,no they have not been varified what i have is charles 1811 wife sarah1813 the trees i found were on ancestry the jessop family appear to be quakers i remember my mother telling me that jack came from a quaker lot from kirkheaton the family of henry is the same as the one ihave on my tee i think that thomas married harriet flatters lincs but i think perhaps this was her second marrigei have their marrige c1906 perhaps it may be eisier to viw my tree on thissite and ancestry
site i get confused looking through my notes they are abit like my brain scrambled i apreciate all your hard work regards bob
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Janet
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5 Dec 2010 12:55 |
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Bob- as you have found the father of charles (born 1811) where have you managed to find the information that his father was born in 1785, and has the information been verified or presumed?
The potential siblings of Charles Jessop, which I have printed, have William and Ann as the parents but they have named their first son Jno (John) which could fit in with the William Jessop born 1778 son of John and Ann.- Jle
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Janet
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5 Dec 2010 12:35 |
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1881 census Reference only. Gt gt grandfather Henry and gt grandfather Thomas Henry JESSOP Head M Male 43 Lepton, York, England Hand Loom Weaver Alice JESSOP Wife M Female 40 Lepton, York, England Hand Loom Weaver John JESSOP Son U Male 20 Lepton, York, England Weaver Fred JESSOP Son U Male 17 Lepton, York, England Cotton Piecer Chas. Henry JESSOP Son Male 13 Lepton, York, England Ellen JESSOP Daur Female 11 Lepton, York, England Almond JESSOP Son Male 9 Lepton, York, England Sarah Amelia JESSOP Daur Female 7 Lepton, York, England Thomas JESSOP Son Male 4 Lepton, York, England Alice Ann JESSOP Daur Female 2 Lepton, York, England Alfred JESSOP Son Male 1 m Lepton, York, England
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Robert
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5 Dec 2010 11:02 |
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hi janet sorry if every thing seems so vauge but i started my tree to get the little gray cells working after suffering a massive stroke.so i needed some thing to focus on to fill my time i have a bad habit of thinking that everyone knows what i am talking about i have got my tree to william 1785 but cant seem to get passed him, charles1811 is my g g grandfater henry his son is my g grandfatherthen thomas his son is my grandfather then jack 1911his son is my father. i think that is correct i do have other members of the family ,their children. hope this helps explainmy ramblings. regards bob
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Janet
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4 Dec 2010 15:42 |
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Just for reference- Bob - could any of these children be your relatives?
1851 Census Spa Bottom Lepton
Charles Jessop Head 40 Handloom weaver Sarah Jessop 38 Nancy 17 William 15 Edwin 11 Elizabeth8 Allen 6 Charles 2 Alfred Henry
All the family born in Lepton Huddersfield
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Janet
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4 Dec 2010 15:35 |
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Hi Bob I am getting a little confused by your message. You say that you haven't got Charles on the census but yet you know he is your gt gt grandfather and lives in the Huddersfield area. Have you looked at the 1851 census with Charles Jessop who lives at Lepton or have you got that information from elsewhere.You gave his birth year as 1811 on your previous message but then say that you haven't got a date for his birth year. Have you considered the information which I gave about Charles Jessop 1811. On reflection I think Charles's father William will be the 8th June 1778 which I have given previously. . The reason why I don't think your relatives of this family live in Kirkburton is because I have all the transcription for baptisms, marriages and deaths in that area and their name isn't there. -Jle
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Robert
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4 Dec 2010 13:01 |
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hi janet thankyou for your help from what i know william married anne c1806 but charles is not on the census of that family i do not have a date for charles birth year so perhaps william did get married again now all i have to do is find his parents sorry if i sound stupid but i am new to this.i have no living relatives i can question thankyou regards bob
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Janet
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2 Dec 2010 16:02 |
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Possible sibling to Charles Jessop 1811 son of William and Ann Jessop 1. MARY JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 15 MAR 1807 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England 2. JNO. JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 DEC 1808 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England 3. CHARLES JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 31 MAR 1811 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England Possible second family of William Jessop and Charlotte Kaye
THOMAS JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 DEC 1828 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England 2. TIMOTHY JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 DEC 1825 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England 3. ANN JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 24 AUG 1823 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England 4. LUKE JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 03 DEC 1826 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England
Two options for Charles Jessop's father William WILLIAM JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 08 JUN 1778 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England son of John and Ann 2. WM. JESSOP - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 APR 1781 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England son of Timothy
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Janet
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2 Dec 2010 15:54 |
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Hi Bob-thanks for the reply If your Gt Gt grandfather is Charles Jessop married to Sarah then I can only find one for that date. He is a fancy weaver living at Cowms in Lepton. On the 1841 there are 3 William Jessops.The one married to Easter which brummiejan kindly posted is a gardener so I would rule that one out. There is one married to Herenhappuch who is too young for Charles Jessops father although he is a fancy weaver. The third William is married to a Charlotte and I think this will be Charles's father along with his step mother. I still think Charles's mother Ann Jessop will have died between 1811 and 1822 as William Jessop marries Charlotte Kaye at Kirkheaton on the 8th Sep 1822. They also live at Cowmes Bottom in Lepton. I would say that the family don't live in Kirkburton, but Kirkheaton/Lepton. The William Jessop is entered as 60 on the 1841 census which means he could be born 1777-1781.-Jle
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Robert
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1 Dec 2010 11:13 |
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i thank you for your replies i do not have any info on william his son his charles 1811 is my g g grandfather the whole family apear to reside in or around kirkburton i think his firstt wife was called anne i have no d o b for her or maiden name
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Janet
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30 Nov 2010 16:31 |
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Hi Bob
There are two possibly marriages at Kirkheaton for this man which could be William Jessop m. Ann Jessop 15 Sep 1806..... if this wife died then...... William Jessop m. Esther Lawton 16 Apl 1816 which is the one which brummiejan has shown you.....(.Easter being pronounced Esther in this area at the time)
I am not saying his child Sarah was not born c. 1850 as he would be 60++ but could the Sarah on the 1841 possibly be his daughter or have you got a birth cert for Sarah ?-Jle
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12 Oct 2010 10:26 |
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EDIT is this him though??
For reference:
1841 England Census
Name: William Jessop Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Kirk Heaton Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division) County/Island: Yorkshire
View image Registration district: Huddersfield Sub-registration district: Kirkburton
William Jessop 55 Easter Jessop 45 Sarah Jessop 15 Eliza Jessop 14 Thomas Jessop 12 Emma Jessop 6 Charlotte Jessop 4
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Robert
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12 Oct 2010 10:15 |
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has anyone got infomation on william jessop i have searched all sites and the ones i have found are all stuck at william i am presuming he was born in or around huddersfield in 1785 his wife is ann no d o b he has one child sarah c1850 sorry that is all i know help please tthankyou bob
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