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1841 census help please

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Katie

Katie Report 7 Oct 2010 21:17

William and Ann had 4 children according to IGI

John b 07/08/1813 Woolwich
William b 28/01/1816 Woolwich
Mary Ann b 09/07/1820 Woolwich
James Henry b 07/10/1826 Gravesend

Katie

Katie Report 6 Oct 2010 16:12

William Burles married Mary Ann Lock on 23/09/1838 at St Peter & St Paul Church, Milton. He was the son of William Burles, grocer. Ann Burles was one of the witnesses. In 1851 Mary describes herself as a mariner's wife. It looks like William was a son of the original pair and Mary their d-in-law.
Katie

Katie

Katie Report 6 Oct 2010 15:56

Yes, I think they must be. The father could have been off on a boat at census time.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Oct 2010 15:45

I suspect the younger children 1841 are grandchildren - is that what you are thinking too?

Katie

Katie Report 6 Oct 2010 15:43

Incidentally Peter is Mary the daughter or daughter in law of William and Ann? The 2 young children Thomas and Mary were bap at different churches in Gravesend but their parents are given as William Burles and his wife Mary. That William was a waterman.
Katie

Peter

Peter Report 6 Oct 2010 15:12

Thank you Katie, that's great to know.

Katie

Katie Report 6 Oct 2010 14:57

The pub is at 1 Terrace Street and is in all the censuses. It is only named in the last three and then it was The Greyhound Tavern.
Katie

Peter

Peter Report 6 Oct 2010 14:29

That is interesting brummiejan as someone told me there is a connection to the Burles family in Essex but I can never find it, maybe this is the missing link? Will take me some time to check the parish records to try and tie the two up. Thank you

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Oct 2010 14:17

Have you checked out Familysearch site/ Just a guess but I wonder if they might be from Essex? A bit speculative though:

From IGI:

William Burls
Birth:
About 1788 Farnham, Essex, England
Death:
About 1853

WILLIAM BURLES
Spouse: ANN MARTIN Family
Marriage:
29 JUN 1808 Manuden, Essex, England
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Peter

Peter Report 6 Oct 2010 13:56

thank you for that information Katie

Peter

Peter Report 6 Oct 2010 13:12

yes it is, although may be errors on it

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Oct 2010 12:50

Is it your tree on Ancestry?
Jan

Peter

Peter Report 6 Oct 2010 12:48

Ok thank you. I believe they both died before the 1851 census, but need to double check that again. Thanks for help

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Oct 2010 12:46

Sadly no. Birthplaces not normally given if out of county, as both of them were. I assume you have looked for them 1851?
Jan

Peter

Peter Report 6 Oct 2010 12:42

That's the family, thank you Jan. I don't suppose it gave the name of the pub at all or whether William and Ann were from the area as having trouble locating their marriage record in the parish registers.

Thanks again Peter

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 6 Oct 2010 12:37

Looks like Terrace St?

1841 England Census

Name: Wm Burles
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1789
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Milton Gravesend
Hundred: Toltingtrough
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend

Wm Burles 52
Ann Burles 50
James Burles 14
Mary Burles 25
Thos Burles 2
Mary Burles 4 MO

Jan

Peter

Peter Report 6 Oct 2010 12:35

Please can anyone help me, I worked on my family tree last year and on my notes I wrote that I found William Burles and his wife Ann on the 1841 census and that he was a publican, however for the life of me I can not find these details again, so hoping someone with great searching skills can find them for me again and tell me the address they are living at please.

They are William Burles born circa 1789, birthplace unknown, Ann born circa 1784 again place unknow, they are living with children Mary born 1820 Woolwich and James born 1826 Milton Gravesend, they should be all registered in Milton Gravesend.

Thanks for help Peter