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LadyKira
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13 Sep 2011 23:09 |
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This link no longer works .
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyCornwall.htm#A
Shame there was a lot of info on there.
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LadyKira
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13 Sep 2011 23:06 |
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I posted this a year ago. I f tou look at the whole return you will see the langmead girls appear to be her children suggesting Prudence was previously married to a Langmead.
1851 census - household transcription Person: BASTARD, Prudence Address: 63, Fore Street, Antony, Torpoint BASTARD, Prudence Head Widow F 64 1787 Annuitant Ship Wash Devonshire LANGMAID, Eliza Daughter Widow F 46 1805 Laundress Devonport Devonshire LANGMAID, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Home Torpoint Cornwall LANGMAID, Mary Ann Daughter F 12 1839 Home Torpoint Cornwall LANGMAID, Ellen Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall
and again posted last October
1841 census - household transcription Person: BASTARD, Prudence Address: Fore Street, Antony BASTARD, Prudence F 55 1786 BASTARD, William M 30 1811 Cornwall BASTARD, Rebecca F 25 1816 Cornwall BASTARD, Emma F 2 1839 Cornwall LANGMEAD, Henry M 35 1806 Cornwall SHANNON, Eliza F 34 1807 Cornwall SHANNON, ??? F 3 1838 Cornwall SHANNON, J??? F 0 (6 months) 1841 Cornwall PARKER, Eliza F 34 1807 Cornwall PARKER, Jenny F 17 1824 PARKER, John M 0 (7 months) 1841 Cornwall ???, ??? M 59 1782 Cornwall ???, ??? M 11 1830 Cornwall
Have you followed the links I gave?
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Dorothy
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13 Sep 2011 12:10 |
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"1851 census - household transcription Person: BASTARD, Prudence Address: 63, Fore Street, Antony, Torpoint BASTARD, Prudence Head Widow F 64 1787"
I wonder this is a relative of my relative, BASTARD, John who was living in Fore Street in the 1841 Census. Aged 25, Caulker.? I have names of his wife and children, but have not been able to trace a marriage or birth record.
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 20:51 |
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Please clarify the name of the second witness.
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 20:06 |
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The children of Charles and Jenny
1. John RICKARD, b. 1803, Saltash, Cornwall, England 2. Jenny RICKARD, b. Abt Oct 1807 3. Jane RICKARD, b. 20 Oct 1808, Torpoint, Cornwall, England 4. William RICKARD, b. 22 Sep 1811 5. Philip Pike RICKARD, b. Abt 1814, Torpoint, Cornwall, England 6. Elizabeth Edgecumbe RICKARD, b. Abt Mar 1817, Torpoint, Cornwall, England 7. Charles William RICKARD, b. Abt 1818, Torpoint, Cornwall, England 8. William Henry RICKARD, b. Abt 1821, Cornwall, England 9. Mary Ann RICKARD, b. Abt May 1824
so John 1803 I found in 1851 was Elizabeth's brother.
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Dea
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3 Oct 2010 12:14 |
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Well, those Rickards who LK found are very probably related but I know where Elizabeth's mother was on 1851.
She was living a few doors away from William + Elizabeth and has their daughter (her grand-daughter) Jane staying with her overnight:
It is mistranscribed and a very poor image - perhaps someone would take a look just to confirm?
1851 England Census about Jenny Richard Name: Jenny Richard (Image looks like Rickard!) Age: 67 Estimated birth year: abt 1784 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Wilcove, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Antony County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: St Germans Sub-registration district: Anthony ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 251 Household Members: Name Age Jenny Richard 67 widow ,Householder?? Jane Broek 2 grand-daughter Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1900; Folio: 152; Page: 53; GSU roll: 221051.
Oh - I see she is with them again on 1861 (properly transcribed this time) so you probably knew this already.
Anyway, I will post it for reference.
Still can't pin William down on 1841 though!!!
I will look some more, later.
Dea x
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 11:50 |
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http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Antony/index.html
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 11:32 |
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyCornwall.htm#A
Have fun!
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 11:30 |
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And this is probably his father's baptism
WILLIAM BROCK Pedigree Male Birth: Christening: 07 OCT 1753 Antony, Cornwall, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM BROCK Family Mother: ELISABETH
Extracted birth or christening record C053071
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 11:27 |
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ANN BROCK Pedigree Female
Birth: 14 OCT 1804 Christening: 25 DEC 1804 Antony, Cornwall, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM BROCK Family Mother: ANN BASTARD Messages: Extracted birth or christening record C053071
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 11:25 |
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ELIZABETH BROCK Pedigree Female
Birth: 06 JUN 1803 Christening: 26 JUN 1803 Antony, Cornwall, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM BROCK Family Mother: ANN BASTARD
Extracted birth or christening record C053071
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 11:17 |
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On Ancestry the Rickard family has these names linked
Name: Jenny Bastard Birth: Apr 1784 - Cornwall, England Death: 1868 - Cornwall, England Marriage: 26 Oct 1801 - Antony, Cornwall, England Parents: William Bastard, Jenny Brock Spouse: Charles Rickard
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 10:59 |
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Pudence in1841 same address
1841 census - household transcription Person: BASTARD, Prudence Address: Fore Street, Antony BASTARD, Prudence F 55 1786 FREE BASTARD, William M 30 1811 Cornwall FREE BASTARD, Rebecca F 25 1816 Cornwall FREE BASTARD, Emma F 2 1839 Cornwall FREE LANGMEAD, Henry M 35 1806 Cornwall FREE SHANNON, Eliza F 34 1807 Cornwall VIEW SHANNON, ??? F 3 1838 Cornwall VIEW SHANNON, J??? F 0 (6 months) 1841 Cornwall VIEW PARKER, Eliza F 34 1807 Cornwall VIEW PARKER, Jenny F 17 1824 VIEW PARKER, John M 0 (7 months) 1841 Cornwall VIEW ???, ??? M 59 1782 Cornwall VIEW ???, ??? M 11 1830 Cornwall
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 10:50 |
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This Rickard family also live on Fore Street but father's name is John. Possibly related to Elizabeth?
1851 census - household transcription Person: RICKARD, Jane Address: 44, Fore Street, Antony, Torpoint RICKARD, John Head Married M 48 1803 Carpenter Saltash Cornwall VIEW RICKARD, Jane Wife Married F 48 1803 Lostwithiel Cornwall VIEW RICKARD, Charles Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Carpenter Ap Torpoint Cornwall VIEW RICKARD, George Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Carpenter Ap Torpoint Cornwall VIEW RICKARD, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 13 1838 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall VIEW RICKARD, Joseph Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall VIEW RICKARD, James Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall VIEW RICKARD, Edwin Son M 5 1846 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 10:41 |
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A possible brother????
1851 census - household transcription Person: BROCK, A A A Address: 18, Wellington Street, Antony, Torpoint BROCK, Edward H Head Married M 33 1818 Tailor (Journeyman) Torpoint Cornwall BROCK, A A A Wife Married F 33 1818 Wilcove Cornwall BROCK, Charles G Son M 8 1843 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall BROCK, Edward Son M 6 1845 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall BROCK, May W Daughter F 4 1847 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall BROCK, Caroline W Daughter F 1 1850 Torpoint Cornwall WALKER, Caroline E Sister Unmarried F 20 1831 Schoolmistress Stonehouse Devonshire SOLE, John Jeffery Lodger Unmarried M 40 1811 Solicitor Retired Devonport Devonshire VIEW WEST, Lavina Servant F 12 1839 Solicitor Home Servant Falmouth Cornwall
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LadyKira
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3 Oct 2010 10:38 |
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I know this is tenuous but keep it in mind as it may provide a clue.
1851 census - household transcription Person: BASTARD, Prudence Address: 63, Fore Street, Antony, Torpoint BASTARD, Prudence Head Widow F 64 1787 Annuitant Ship Wash Devonshire LANGMAID, Eliza Daughter Widow F 46 1805 Laundress Devonport Devonshire LANGMAID, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Home Torpoint Cornwall LANGMAID, Mary Ann Daughter F 12 1839 Home Torpoint Cornwall LANGMAID, Ellen Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Torpoint Cornwall
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Jeanette
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3 Oct 2010 09:31 |
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I have found a William John Bastard Brock born 1815 Baptised in Stoke Dameral father William. Could this be the right one or could there realy be 2 William John Bastard Brocks born 1815 Jeanette
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LadyKira
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2 Oct 2010 15:03 |
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There are a number of people with him on ancestry but none have found a father.
I like K's 1841
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WayneTracey
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2 Oct 2010 14:51 |
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I have done a street search for 1841 & 1851 on Chapel Street, Stoke Dameral...looking through the results now.
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Nothing obvious comes up :(
T x
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Dea
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2 Oct 2010 14:31 |
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Thanks Jeanette,
I am looking but have not found anything for you yet.
I have them in 1851 but not for certain yet in 1841.
Dea x
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