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I have found two Joseph Olivers born in Hillmorton /rugby. One with second name of William born 1863 and 1866, can anyone tell me which one was the brother of Albert

you are being so helpfull. Roses sons were refered to as Sam and Dick, i met both of these and am sure you are right about sam but dont know whether Dick was real name.

Possibly Samuel J Smiths death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Samuel James Smith
Name: Samuel James Smith
Birth Date: 5 Feb 1914
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Rugby
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 31
Page: 0225

I think this is Rose's marriage;

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Thomas Smith
Name: Thomas Smith
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1090

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Rose Oliver
Name: Rose Oliver
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1090


This is them in 1911 (this is only a general check as I have no credits to see the actual image)

chedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD SMITH THOMAS M 1881 30 Rugby Warwickshire Born Northamptonshire

HOUSEHOLD SMITH ROSE F 1885 26 Rugby Warwickshire born Hillmorton......... married 1901 (-/+ 1 year)


I'm not sure if they have children with them on this census.... I can't pinpoint any doing a general check, but these maybe the children after 1911;


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
Smith Samuel J Oliver Rugby 6d 1573

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Smith Half Oliver Rugby 6d 1338


Regarding Half Smith......... I think looking at the original image his name is actually RALF



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Hi Brenda,

just a quick look. Alfred died, so no marriage or children from his line;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
Oliver Alfred Henry 18 Rugby 6d 333


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Sadly Percy Harold died in 1929, 3 years after marrying. I can't see any children born to him and his wife.



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1901 England Census about Joseph William Oliver
Name: Joseph William Oliver
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lousia Oliver
Gender: Male
Where born: Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Hillmorton
Ecclesiastical parish: Hillmorton St John the Baptist
Town: Hillmorton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Crick
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph William Oliver 18
Lousia Oliver 19

His marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Collett Arthur James Rugby 6d 931
>>>>>>>>>>>Day Louisa Rugby 6d 931
>>>>>>>>>>>Oliver Joseph William Rugby 6d 931
Treadgold Harriett Rugby 6d 931


These are Joseph and Louisa's children in 1911;

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other

HOUSEHOLD OLIVER PEREY M 1901 10 Brixworth Northamptonshire
HOUSEHOLD OLIVER SIDNEY M 1904 7 Brixworth Northamptonshire


Sidney's birth;


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1903 (>99%)

Oliver Sidney George E Brixworth 3b 119


And Percy's;

Births Sep 1901 (>99%)

Oliver Percy Harold Rugby 6d 620



I am going to send you a private message with regard to the births of Sidney George E Olivers children.



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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
BUSBY Fred Rugby 6d 1105
LILLICRAPP Martha Ellen Rugby 6d 1105
<<<<<<<<<<<<<Oliver Ellen Rugby 6d 1105
<<<<<<<<<<WHITE John Rugby 6d 1105


1901 England Census about Ellen White
Name: Ellen White
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John White
Gender: Female
Where born: Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Hillmorton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Hillmorton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Crick
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members:
Name Age
John White 25
Ellen White 21
John White 3
Ellen White 2


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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Maude Oliver
Name: Maude Oliver
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Burdett
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1042

She married; Frank Burdett


Child??

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Burdett Lily Oliver Rugby 6d 1362

Harry's marriage;

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
>>>>>>>>>>Beech Beatrice Oliver Rugby 6d 1253
Brazier Thomas F W Taylor Rugby 6d 1253
>>>>>>>>>>>>Oliver Harry Beech Rugby 6d 1253
Taylor Mary M Brazier Rugby 6d 1253


A couple of children;


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)

Oliver Nellie B A Beech Rugby 6d 1633


Births Jun 1916 (>99%)

Oliver Harry Beech Rugby 6d 1463



Possibly Harry Jnr's death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Harry Oliver
Name: Harry Oliver
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1916
Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1994
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Rugby
Inferred County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Register number: 63D
District and Subdistrict: 7701
Entry number: 147

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Sadly Nellie died very young;
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Nellie B A Oliver
Name: Nellie B A Oliver
Death Registration Month/Year: 1920
Age at death (estimated): 5
Registration district: Rugby
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 917

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1901 England Census about Eli Oliver
Name: Eli Oliver
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lavina Oliver
Gender: Male
Where born: Hillmorton
Civil parish: Northfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Eli Oliver 25
Lavina Oliver 23
Eli W Oliver 5
Mary H Oliver 3
Sarah A Oliver 2 Months


Eldest sons marriage??

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Eli W Oliver
Name: Eli W Oliver
Spouse Surname: Smith
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1950
Registration district: Nuneaton
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1561
Find Spouse:Winifred M Smith

and his death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Eli William Oliver
Name: Eli William Oliver
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1895
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Chichester
Inferred County: West Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 2044

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Brenda,

is this your father?

1901 England Census about Albert Oliver
Name: Albert Oliver
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ellen Oliver
Gender: Male
Where born: Crick, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Hillmorton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Hillmorton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Crick
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Oliver 45
Rose A Oliver 16
Albert Oliver 13
Harry Oliver 6
Maud Oliver 3


1891 England Census about Albert Oliver
Name: Albert Oliver
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Oliver
Mother's Name: Ellen Oliver
Gender: Male
Where born: Crich, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Hillmorton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Hillmorton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Rugby
Sub-registration district: Crick
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Oliver 36
Ellen Oliver 34
Eli Oliver 15
Alfred Oliver 12
Ellen Oliver 10
Joseph Oliver 8
Rose Oliver 6
Albert Oliver 3


Dee x

well you could write a letter to the local Rugby paper which comes out weekly on a Thursday or The Daventry Express(also weekly on a Thursday) asking if anyone knows of the family

Does anyone else have any suggestions as to how i can find out if my dads brothers and sisters married and had children

Have tried search trees more than once but still cannot find anyone that is directly connected to my family

I have many in my family tree but unable to link with anyone living related. I am sure there must be as quite a big family. I am specificaly looking for the children of my dads brothers and sisters and their children.
My dad being Albert Oliver from Hillmorton. Ancestors from Kilsby

Paula- they are both places on what we'd now call the 'outskirts' of Rugby

Quite a few Olivers born in both places in this site

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

who specifically - born when?

Does anyone remember this family or have any connection. Trying to put together my family tree