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BIRTH PLACE

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wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 15:20

Married 7th. Child and she appears on my M/Cert.(Never met!). 11 Children in total! Estrangements create Family silences for me please note. Thanks!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Sep 2010 15:02

I never delete my postings either.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 12 Sep 2010 14:54

I don't delete my postings.

How have you got back to Ethel?

When you say certs all show mmn as Steel, how many children do you think she had as it appears she was 39 at the 1st marriage?

Christine


wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 14:41

Oh MM, just when I thought I'd ticked the little boxes! These names/dates/places are very relevent despite not having Certs at this stage but, the refs. will be taken onboard asap. Her Profile gets bigger by the moment too! Can't thank you all enough! Paracetamol anyone?

wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 14:34

Hi All, Have noted all the refs. given and will transfet to my
scribbler for follow-up in time so take it as greatly valued by myself. These revelations have certainly explained why it is so hard to fix on her to date. Please leave postings a couple of days before erasure if you would be so kind?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Sep 2010 14:28

Mind you, there is a marriage of Ethel Wozencroft to a Hurd:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Ethel Wozencroft
Name: Ethel Wozencroft
Spouse Surname: Hurd
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1967
Registration district: Scunthorpe
Registration county (inferred): Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 1323
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Joseph E Hurd
Name: Joseph E Hurd
Spouse Surname: Wozencroft
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1967
Registration district: Scunthorpe
Registration county (inferred): Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 1323

wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 14:22

Gosh, no wonder I can't track her, as her/their Son-in-Law, distanced by circumstance, I've always assumed it was a remarriage to HURD! the Derby connection is confirmed though and your ref. valued here. I feel a 'back-to-the-drawing-board' moment is called for? Grateful!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Sep 2010 14:19

But she died as Wozencroft not Hurd:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005


Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries


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Name: Ethel Constance Wozencroft
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1982
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 6
Page: 0781

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Name: Ethel Constance Wozencroft
Birth: 29 Jun 1894
Death: Derby, Derbyshire, England
Death: Jan-Feb-Mar 1982

Oops, should have refreshed! Sorry Christine you already posted that.

wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 14:15

Thanks all, I'll have to get both B & D Cert. on her as she still evades me still but, that 1969 pointer is new to me so again appreciated, thanks!

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 12 Sep 2010 14:12

But it appears she died as Wozencroft.

Name: Ethel Constance Wozencroft
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1982
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 6

Why do you think she remarried?

Christine

wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 14:10

Hi MM, Recent mailing in from a married-in member confirms she was 1894-1982 as STEEL then WOZ. then HURD (This latter the m-i Line). Certs. all show STEEL as Maiden

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Sep 2010 14:02

Can't find birth of Ethel Constance but there are quite a few Ethels. I think you're going to have to buy the marriage certificate to get her father's name.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Sep 2010 14:01

As her death was registered after 1969, the certificate should show her birth place.

If you have the marriage certificate and know her father's name and occupation, it may be possible to locate the family in the 1901 and 1911 cnsus and hopefully find her birthplace stated there.

Gwyn

wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 13:58

Reread confirms data-ref MM, from this starter I have all onwards, it's her origin I need. Appreciate this, thanks!

wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 13:55

Yes MM, sorry if confusion here, and thanks pickup!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Sep 2010 13:52

Was Steel her maiden name?

Yes, answered my own question:

Marriages Mar 1933 (99%)
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Steel Ethel Wozencroft Pickering 9d 561
Wozencroft Arthur J Steel Pickering 9d 561

Edit: She could have been previously married, she was 39 at this marriage if she was born 1894. But you said you had details of children. Does it give mother's maiden name as Steel?

wozcav

wozcav Report 12 Sep 2010 13:19

Final Target shows: Ethel Constance Steel b.1894 - d.1982 with
Marriages of 1933 PICKERING N/Yorks. & SCUNTHORPE N/Lincs. I have Children fom these now but, lack her Birthplace to start search on her own origins, can any kindly GR find this for me pre my ordering GRO-Certifications please? Grateful any assistance, thanks!