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a huge thankyou to both of you , it didnt even enter my mind to check for john robert under his mum married name lesson learnt am over the moon to find out he was living with his mum in 1911 after finding him in 1901 living with the wise family in hull and as a boarder we thought he was just given away , its nice to know john robert peart / robert hand is no longer lost once again a huge thankyou

Well, Tempest, that was a bit below the belt! Well done for sorting that one out.
Jan

you're welcome Kirsty

just wait and see if the children of the "2nd marriage" decide to use the surname of their mother's first "husband" when they felt like it.

Mine did grrrrrrrrrrr!

Glad to help. Our ancestors certainly made it hard for us didn't they. The curse of the 2nd name strikes again too!
Jan

thankyou so much brummiejan and tempest you are true stars i dont know why i didnt think of looking for him under his mothers married name now i know , no wonder why i kept hitting brick walls a big huge thankyou , thankyou everyone john robert peart isnt lost he has been found
thanks kirsty

Marriage about Emily May Peart and Edward Hand
Name: Emily May Peart
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Louth
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 1299

ooh wow thankyou so much yes that does look like the john robert am sorry am really slow at typing and replying but that does look like him and his mother emily did mary a hand and those other children i have already in my tree we just didnt know what happened to john thankyou you all so much

1901 England Census about Edward Hand
living with brother he's a stockman on farm (cattle)

Name: Edward Hand
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: North Cockeringham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Alvingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Alvingham Athelwold and North Cockerington St Mary
Town: Alvingham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Louth
Sub-registration district: Saltfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Hand 24
Elizabeth Hand 24
Charles Hand 3
Mabel Hand 2
Edward Hand 34

all it states is alvingham road in the sub-district of saltfleet no house name or house number i do know he was christened on 14th nov 1899 at barrow upon humber the only thing we can think of he was christened on his was to hull regards kirsty

oops same thoughts as brummiejan!

HAND, Edward Head Married
6 years M 45 1866 Farm Labourer Lincs Alvingham VIEW
HAND, Emily Wife Married F 35 1876 Lincs Wooton VIEW
HAND, Robert Son M 11 1900 School Alvingham Lincs VIEW
HAND, Alfred Son M 6 1905 School Lincs Nth Thoresby VIEW
HAND, Doris Daughter F 4 1907 Lincs Nth Thoresby VIEW
HAND, Constance Daughter F 2 1909 Lincs Alvingham VIEW

Might the Robert here be him though? Alvingham does come under Louth. Children often recorded with new husband's name:

AND, Edward Head Married
6 years M 45 1866 Farm Labourer Lincs Alvingham VIEW
HAND, Emily Wife Married F 35 1876 Lincs Wooton VIEW
HAND, Robert Son M 11 1900 School Alvingham Lincs VIEW
HAND, Alfred Son M 6 1905 School Lincs Nth Thoresby VIEW
HAND, Doris Daughter F 4 1907 Lincs Nth Thoresby VIEW
HAND, Constance Daughter F 2 1909 Lincs Alvingham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19920 Reference:
RG14PN19920 RG78PN1195 RD421 SD4 ED1 SN47

Registration District:
Louth Sub District:
Saltfleet Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Alvingham

Address:
America Farm Alvingham County:
Lincolnshire

Do you have an address on the birth cert? A long shot but worth a look to see who was there 1911.
Jan

hello and thankyou so much the only info i have about john robert peart is that he was born alvingham louth 1899 no father on birth certifcate only mother emily peart i know john robert peart was married in 1927 spilsby lincs just wanted to know if he went to live with family or was still a boarder john r pearts mother emily peart is living in louth she was married in 1904 to edward hand and that is all i know but many many thanks for everyone help

Other way round? I wonder if you have any other information - you could really do with his marriage cert for example.

PEART, Francis Head Married
23 years M 46 1865 Police Constable Marsh Chapel Lincs VIEW
PEART, Annie Wife Married F 44 1867 Hainton Lincs VIEW
PEART, Florence May Daughter Single F 16 1895 At Home Great Grimsby Lincs VIEW
PEART, Robert John Son M 13 1898 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs VIEW
PEART, William Son M 12 1899 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs VIEW
PEART, Frank Edward Son M 10 1901 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs VIEW
PEART, Mansel Fredrick Son M 5 1906 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs VIEW
PEART, James Rondel Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 At Home Great Grimsby Lincs VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19948 Reference:
RG14PN19948 RG78PN1197A RD422 SD1 ED3 SN270

Registration District:
Grimsby Sub District:
Great Grimsby Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Great Grimsby

Address:
79 Lambert Road Grimsby County:
Lincolnshire

this is the closest i can see

1911 census - household transcription
Person: PEART, Robert John
Address: 79 Lambert Road Grimsby

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

PEART, Francis Head Married
23 years M 46 1865 Police Constable Marsh Chapel Lincs
PEART, Annie Wife Married F 44 1867 Hainton Lincs
PEART, Florence May Daughter Single F 16 1895 At Home Great Grimsby Lincs
PEART, Robert John Son M 13 1898 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs
PEART, William Son M 12 1899 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs
PEART, Frank Edward Son M 10 1901 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs
PEART, Mansel Fredrick Son M 5 1906 School At Home Great Grimsby Lincs
PEART, James Rondel Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 At Home Great Grimsby Lincs

Kirsty, I can't see this at all. Is the spelling exactly as uou say?
jan

hello yes that is the john robert peart in the 1901 census down as living as a boarder with the wise family in hull, john was born 1899 alvingham louth and i have looked at the census for 1911 and shows only one john robert peart location as grimsby not sure if he was living with a family member or down as a boarder ?? many thanks kirsty

Is this him 1901? Oh dear.

1901 England Census

Name: John R Peart
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool

George H Wise 26
Rose H Wise 26
Laurence H Wise 5
John R Peart 1

Can't quite pin him down - do you have names of other family members?
Jan

hello can somebody please do a house hold look up on the 1911 census for john robert peart born 1898 grimsby in 1911 he is still in grimsby, many thanks kirsty