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Thank you Pam! That may really help someone in the future!

The reason Catherine does not appear with Philip on the Freebmd entry is an incorrect page number. It should be 256 and they have 254 against the entry for Catherine Hesketh. Having checked the page numbers elsewhere I have put in a correction.

Hi Pam and thank you for this great info; it is really helpful to me! Wow!

Oddly, the marriage for Philip Thompson in 1865 is for Philip junior's father! He was widowed in 1861 and remarried to Catherine Hesketh in 1865, quite a few years his junior. He was well into his late 70s by this point. For some reason Catherine does not appear on the marriage index but I do have the cert, and it appears on the IGI pilot website.

For Philip juniors wife; she was called Hannah Thompson born c. 1824 in Wiston Cheshire. I looked for her in 1881 but no sign and so I looked for a death between 1871-1881 but nothing stood out. Have I just missed her or is she in 1891?

Thank you again for this help! It is much appreciated.

Two of Philip and Esther's children

3. MARY THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 SEP 1811 Frodsham, Cheshire, England

4. SALLY THOMPSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 MAR 1809 Frodsham, Cheshire, England

For 1861 this entry appears to fit but place of birth is incorrect.

1861 England Census

Name: Philip Thompson
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockton, Durham, England ??????

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Mersey River
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Anglesey
Sub-registration district: Holyhead
ED, institution, or vessel: Liscard
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William Temperly 33
Benjamin Zetes 40
Philip Thompson 34 *****
Patrick Costello 19
Robt Edwards 28
Ben Holden 25
Thos Matthews 13
John Rome 40
Richard Williams 25
John Davis 36

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4503; Folio: 136; Page: ; GSU roll: 543295.

Possible marriage :

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Philip Thompson
Name: Philip Thompson
Spouse: Hannah Garner
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 256

A possible death ?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Name: Philip Thompson
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 49
District: Birkenhead (1861-1998)
County: Cheshire, Merseyside
Volume: 8a
Page: 369

1871 England Census

Name: Phillip Thompson
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Tranmere
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Thompson 45 Captain of Ferry Boat
Hannah Thompson 44 Captain's Wife
Mary A Woolford 23 Captain's Niece, born Manchester, Lancashire
William Johnson 34 Marine Engineer

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3751; Folio: 161; Page: 5; GSU roll: 842141.


...and a second entry for Philip Thompson and William Johnson which gives you more information:

1871 England Census

Name: Phillip Thompson
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Master
Gender: Male
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Off Eastham Upper Mersey River
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wirral
Sub-registration district: Eastham
ED, institution, or vessel: Wasp
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Thompson 45 Captain
William Johnson 40 Engineer
John Wallis 18 Boy born Deptford, Kent

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3742; Folio: 27; GSU roll: 842134.

1851 England Census

Name: Philip Thompson
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Dock Porter

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Budworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7f
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 262
Household Members: Name Age
Philip Thompson 25
Hannah Thompson 24 born Wiston, Cheshire
Mary Ann Ley 4 Niece born Manchester, Lancashire


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2164; Folio: 521; Page: 65; GSU roll: 87146-87147.

1841 England Census

Name: Philip Thompson
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Runcorn
Hundred: Bucklow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Runcorn
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Philip Thompson 50
Esther Thompson 55
William Thompson 20
Philip Thompson 15

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 95; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Runcorn; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 8A; Folio: 7; Page: 8; Line: 2; GSU roll: 241235.

Can anyone spot William's brother Philip Thompson. I found his baptism on the IGI Pilot Record's site and Philip was baptised in the Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Great Budworth, Cheshire on 3rd March 1826.

Thank you

Thank also for finding Matthew for me in 1891! Really interesting!

wow, thank you Pam! That was quick and what wonderful information for me! Well, it does seems as though this is my relation and the census work does tally with the 1881, which you also kindly posted!

I think William is the one who died in 1888 as that is the closest age. Thank you!

I wonder if William's marriage was the one to Sarah Jones in St. Peter, Chester, Cheshire in 1841! I found this on the IGI and although the location doesn't match, the date would! Did people often marry away from their hometown?

I hope you don't mind me asking, but whilst we are on the subject, can I ask for a census look-up for William's brother Philip. I found his baptism on the IGI Pilot Record's site and Philip was baptised in the Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Great Budworth, Cheshire on 3rd March 1826. To be honest, I know nothing of him and I can't find anything offical on 1881, so perhaps he died young.

I'm just wondering if he lived to be an adult but perhaps died before 1881? Or maybe I have just missed him on the 1881!

Thank you again for your great help with William. It is very kind of you and very helpful to me!

1891 England Census
about Matthew Thompson
Name: Matthew Thompson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Runcorn
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Thompson 35 HEAD Shiphand Labourer
Elizabeth Thompson 24 WIFE
James Thompson 37 BROTHER Shiphand Labourer


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2833; Folio 13; Page 20; GSU roll: 6097943.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1882 (>99%)
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THOMPSON William 69 Runcorn 8a 166

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Deaths Sep 1887 (>99%)
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Thompson William 76 Runcorn 8a 157

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Deaths Dec 1888 (>99%)
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Thompson William 72 Runcorn 8a 146

1851 England Census

Name: William Thompson
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Budworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7d
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 30
Sarah Thompson 30
Mary Thompson 9
Edward Thompson 7
Philip Thompson 4
Sarah Ann Thompson 1


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2164; Folio: 446; Page: 34; GSU roll: 87146-87147.

1871 England Census

Name: William Thompson
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Runcorn
Ecclesiastical parish: Church
Town: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 196
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 49
James Thompson 16
Matthew Thompson 14
Sarah Ann Thompson 12
Elizabeth Thompson 10
Joseph Percival 28 Son in Law



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3691; Folio: 50; Page: 39; GSU roll: 842108.

1861 England Census

Name: William Thompson
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Runcorn
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 43
Sarah Thompson 40
Mary Thompson 19
Phillip Thompson 14
William Thompson 9
James Thompson 7
Matthew Thompson 5
Sarah A Thompson 3
Elizabeth Thompson 11 Mo

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2598; Folio: 18; Page: 30; GSU roll: 542996.

1881 England Census

Name: William Thompson
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Runcorn
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Queen St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors
Household Members: Name Age
William Thompson 67
Sarah Thompson 60
James Thompson 27
Samuel Crofoot 74
Matthew Thompson 25

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3515; Folio: 92; Page: 28; GSU roll: 1341842.

Hello there,

Can someone please look up for me on the census my relation William Thompson, who was christened at Frodsham, Cheshire on 21 April 1816.

His parents were Philip Thompson and Esther Tollet, and both of his parents died in Runcorn, Cheshire (in 1861 and 1873).

I am asking for a look-up for William in the 1841, 1851, 1861 and beyond until he dies (if he has not died already).

I have found a possibly William Thompson, living in Runcorn in 1881 but this is not confirmed, and without a sub to ancestry I can't check him up on earlier census returns. The name is fairly common also, so selecting him in 1881 is a little sketchy, as he could of died long before this. Can any spot him and confirm he is the William Thompson living in Runcorn in 1881?

Any help is appreciated!

Thank you,

Peter