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Hi,
Can anyone help me please, please, please
I need to find the names of the parents of the following children
Harry and William Lawson born Liverpool sept 1/4 1892
John and Joseph Lawson born West Derby june 1/4 1897
Henry and James Lawson born West Derby dec 1/4 1905
They all died within 6 months of birth and were most likely catholics.
Hope someone out there can help me.
Thanks
Cath

They will not be on any census so baptisms are the only way really of finding them

jax

really sad this!!!

Parents names will be on the certificates


Births Sep 1892

Lawson Harry Liverpool 8b 106
Lawson William Liverpool 8b 106

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Births Jun 1897
Lawson John W. Derby 8b 275
Lawson Joseph W. Derby 8b 275

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Births Dec 1905

Lawson Henry W. Derby 8b 422
Lawson James W. Derby 8b 422

Was hoping that someone might have them in their family.

Cath

It's even sadder than that, if they turn out to be the right family they had already had and lost 3 sets of twins!
Cath

How have you come by the names of all these twins without knowing the parents please?

If you think you know the family the twins 'belong' to, have you checked them in census 1911 to see if they have lost that many children?

My great grandparents lost 2 sets of twins in the first 6 months but they were all baptised in london so I found them

jax

checked the 1911 census and found 6 missing children of James and Annie Lawson, as they had already had 3 sets of single sex twins that's where I looked first.
their 1st and 2nd children were born in England, the next 13 were all born in the I O M, and the 6 missing ones were all born in England. I assume they were born in Liverpool, in the Lime St area. There are very few online rc records, and searching in Liverpool is not an option as I live in the Isle of Man so I searched the BMD and these were the most likely!

How do you know the names of the twins?
There are lots of Lawsons born W. Derby in the quarters you mentioned.

I don't know the names.
I checked the BMD for single sex twinswho were born and had died between 1890(when they moved to Liverpool) and1911.
Then I went on location. James and Annie lived in a different area when the 1st set of twins were born so that fits.
The 3 that I chose all had family names.
I checked these on the LDS site (very few catholics on that site) None of them were there.
Just want to know if there is any other site Imight have missed , have tried liverpoolhistoryprojects without any luck.
Cath

So this couple had 3 sets of twins living in 1911 but 6 children had died? why do they have to be twins that died?

jax

When James and Annie left the Isle of Man for Liverpool in 1890 they had had 15 children, this included 3 sets of same sex twins.
All of the twins and one other child died.
They had 6 more children whilst in Liverpool.
As there is a family history, from way back to modern times, of twins that do not survive it made sense to search for twins first

Cath

Hi
Henry and James are on the Lancashire bmd site. Unfortunately mother's maiden name isn't given but it does narrow down the registration district:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1905
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

LAWSON Henry Kirkdale Liverpool KIRK/144/35

LAWSON James Kirkdale Liverpool KIRK/144/35

I also looked on the Lancashire online parish clerk site but couldn't find any of them on there.

EDIT Take a look at the Lancashire Records Office Site. They have a list of the Church Records they hold including Roman Catholic. You can contact them by 'phone or e -mail & they may be able to assist or advise you.

Julie

Just to nudge, and say that this is fascinating, please keep us informed of your progress

Hi,
Thanks for the tip,

All the pieces fit, I just can't seem to glue them together, but I'm not giving up!

I will certainly keep you informed, just hope that after all this work they turn out to be mine.

Cath