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Henry David FOLLETT b. circa1796 London?

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AnneRachel

AnneRachel Report 11 Aug 2010 21:05

I have found a marriage which just might be the parents of my Henry David.
Henry FOLLETT & Sarah BAKER married July 1791 at Teddington, Middlesex. The county agrees with 1841 census for Henry David's birthplace, and his first child was named Sarah, likely after a grandmother. So I would dearly love to see the parish registers for Teddington baptisms 1790s - unfortunately they don't appear to have been transcribed yet.

Thanks to LadyKira, I just found this marriage while exploring links on RootsChat website which you recommended.

Anne

AnneRachel

AnneRachel Report 8 Aug 2010 21:48

Thank you all
I'm glad we have cleared up the Provisions Dealer / Victualer issue. So Henry David probably wasn't an Innkeeper - what a relief ( his daughter Maria can rest easy, she was apparently a leading member of the Women's Christian Temperance Association, so having a victualer for a father would not have gone down well !! )

If he was a provisions dealer in 1830, perhaps he did not take up butchery until later in the 1830s.

I shall investigate Rootschat.

And Re the baptism at age 20 of Henry junior, I have just realised that the 1853 date coincided with the presumed date of death of his mother, maybe that explains it?

Many thanks for your input.
Anne

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 11:23

Sorry
I posted some time after I read it and did it from memory.
Chris was right with the provisions dealer.



Google rootschat

It is a genelogical forum that is good for narrowing things down by proffesion or place as well as surname.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 Aug 2010 11:15

you may have heard of victualer as it is pronouncd "vitler"

Victualler 1) A tavern keeper - see Licensed Victualler. 2) Provided army, navy, or merchant ships with food supplies

Licensed Victualler A Tavern or Innkeeper or Publican- term still used today for someone who runs a Pub (Public House)

AnneRachel

AnneRachel Report 8 Aug 2010 11:05

If Henry (junior) wasn't baptised til he was 20, then I suspect that his younger sisters would not have been baptised as infants either.
Anne

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Aug 2010 10:47

Lol, I thought it said Provision Dealer, not the best of images that one! :-))
Sadly, no advance on Maria though...

Chris :)

AnneRachel

AnneRachel Report 8 Aug 2010 10:47

I had to look up victualer, that is a new one.
I have found the occupation Butcher on Henry David's death cert, also when his daughter Maria married - she married twice and both times described her father as a butcher. And I think the 1841 census image had him down as a butcher also. But I cannot access that image from here to check this.
So could he have been a victualer as well as a butcher?

What is roots chat, I am not familiar with that?
Anne

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 10:26

I was wondering about his trade, He is not described as master butcher.
But maybe he did servr an apprentice ship.On the baptism Chris found he is described as a victualer. Trades were often passed on in families, Roots chat can be good for that.

AnneRachel

AnneRachel Report 8 Aug 2010 09:53

Thank you LadyKira and Chris
So a baptism transcribed as Tollett - I shouldn't be so surprised, F and T do look similar in the script of that time! Well done!
Yes stange that young Henry was not baptised 'til about 20 yrs - and long after the death of his father.

Really appreciate your input
Anne

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 09:13

1851 census - household transcription
Person: FOLLETT, Maria
Address: 36, Hendon Street, Saint Georges Hanover Square, Westminster
ASMAN, Elizabeth Married F 26 1825
St George Hanover
Middlesex VIEW
ASMAN, Joseph Son M 0 (11 MOS) 1851
St John Westminster
Middlesex VIEW
FOLLETT, Maria Visitor F 15 1836
Marylebone
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 08:58

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Maria Follett
Name: Maria Follett
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Spouse Name: William Edmond bootmaker
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Nov 1857
Parish: Holy Trinity, Brompton Road
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Henry David Follett butcher dec'd
Spouse Father Name: Charles Edmond labourer dec'd

witnesses were Thomas and Elizabeth Taylor

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 08:50



1851 census - household transcription
Person: FOLLETT, Sarah
Address: 31, Ponsonby Place, St John The Evangelist, Westminster
FOLLETT, Alsie Head Widow F 47 1804 Needle Woman
Clapham
Surrey VIEW
FOLLETT, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Clock & Mansle Maker
London
Middlesex VIEW
FOLLETT, Alsie Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
London
Middlesex VIEW
CAKES, Janet Visitor F 3 1848 Scholar
London
Middlesex VIEW

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 08:44

Also for reference

1841 census - household transcription
Person: FOLLETT, Henry
Address: Willow Street, St Margaret, Westminster
SILK, Thomas M 55 1786 Middlesex VIEW
SILK, Susan F 50 1791 VIEW
KNIGHT, Thos M 0 (10 months) 1841 Middlesex VIEW
JONES, Thomas M 25 1816 VIEW
COMBER, John M 20 1821 VIEW
FOLLETT, Henry M 40 1801 Middlesex VIEW
FOLLETT, Alse F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
FOLLETT, Sarah F 11 1830 Middlesex VIEW
FOLLETT, Henry M 7 1834 Middlesex VIEW
FOLLETT, Maria F 5 1836 Middlesex VIEW
FOLLETT, Alice F 2 1839 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 08:39

How strange that they shold baptise one child as a baby but wait 20 years for the other.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 08:37

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Henry Follett
Name: Henry Follett
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 17 Jul 1853
Father's Name: Henry David Follett
Mother's Name: Alse Follett
Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
County: London

residence Plays Place
birth date 18th Oct 1833

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Aug 2010 08:32

This looks to be Sarah,
(image says born 7th April)...


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Sarah Tollett
Name: Sarah Tollett
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 2 May 1830
Father's Name: Henry Tollett
Mother's Name: Alse Tollett
Parish: St Anne, Soho, Dean Street
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Chris :)


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Aug 2010 08:21

Very well put Anne I must say.

Here is the marriage for reference

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Henry David Follett
Name: Henry David Follett
Spouse Name: Alse Barrett
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Jun 1829
Parish: St Pancras Parish Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden


witnesses were Maria and Octavia? Barrett

AnneRachel

AnneRachel Report 8 Aug 2010 07:34

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AnneRachel

AnneRachel Report 7 Aug 2010 22:25

Yes Ann of GG
I believe that Henry is the son, but it is his father Henry David who I seek. Thank you for your interest.
Anne

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Aug 2010 22:18

connection? butchers - 1881

Henry FOLLETT Head M Male 43 Islington, Middlesex, England Master Butcher
Emma FOLLETT Wife M Female 39 Islington, Middlesex, England
Mary WOODHOUSE Servant W Female 42 Derby, England General Servant
John HARRIS Servant U Male 22 Dunstable, Bedford, England Assistant Butcher
Dawson PEACOCK Servant U Male 19 Birmingham Assistant Butcher


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Source Information:
Dwelling 18 Fonthill
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341060
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0276 / 84
Page Number 17