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Hi I am related to Annie Golding she was married to Charles Banchini. Her father was Victor Golding and the whitness to her wedding was her sister Julia who married Arthur Keeble.
regards Maggie

I would be inclined to get this cert and see whose child she was?

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)

Zlotnicki Rhoda Ireson W. Ham 4a 39

no something not right here isn't there! Clearly the children born in Poland and living with the Iresons are the right ones...just looking back I realised that the Vikter marrying a Susan here is probably the right one!


to recap Vikter born Poland had the children there, came here , re married to Susan Hart...she later married Robert Ireson and they looked after the Zlotnicki children...

the only thing concluded for sure is that with Adam born in Poland around 1872 and with 'step-parents' in 1881, then Viktor and his wife came to UK between those dates...and presumably died between those dates...

Robert and Susan Ireson have a one year old daughter...so I am assuming she is the widow of Viktor,? cannot find a marriage of Susan to Robert,

EDIT Susan may not be Victors widow, as it says she is born Norfolk like Robert... so the children may not be step-children as such... but 'adopted' ? Either way there is no sign of Viktor at this point

back from that 1891 where Ellen/Helen appears The Zlotnicki children are step sons and step daughter

1881 England Census
about Robert Ireson
Name: Robert Ireson
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 15 North St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Shoe Maker

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Ireson 45
Susan Ireson 45
Florry Ireson 1
James Flotnicki 16 ******** Poland
Ronald Flotnicki 14 "
Anna Flotnicki 11 "
Adam Flotnicki 9 "

this can't be unconnected given the closeness of name and the name Ireson?

Deaths Jun 1878 (>99%)
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ZLOTINSKI Rhoda Ireson 1 W.Ham 4a 31

and her birth under Zlotnicki

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)

Zlotnicki Rhoda Ireson W. Ham 4a 39

Found this spelling on free bmd:

Births Sep 1857 (97%)
Zlotnicke Vincent Victor Shoreditch 1c 201

Grace

Victor Golding was the father of Ellen Golding as per the marriage certificate. Witnesses were Julia Keeble and Joseph Partridge.

Victor changed his name from Viktor Zlotnicki to Victor Golding

Still none the wiser really,

I see the 1891 you refer to

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1891 England Census
about Helen Ireson
Name: Helen Ireson
[Helen Golding]
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Poland

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Ireson 57
Susan Ireson 56
Florence Ireson 11
William Hammarton 24
Helen Ireson 27 **** Golding
Frederick Ireson 6
Albert Hammarton 1

and I see that William Hammarton married Ellen Golding in 1890 . So I'm assuming you have the marriage cert for that...what name is on for father?

what I can't get is any link in previous census between Ellen and Golding/Zlotnicki as father?

In the 1891 census. Children were Helena born c1862 or 1864, Julia born 1860 ??, Annie born 1869 not sure about James' dob.

at what period were they living at Lett road Juliet? do you have birth years of children?

Dont know his wifes name. Children were Helen, Julia, Annie and James. Although there name is Golding except James who spelt his name differently. I know they lived at 7 Lett Road West Ham.

Juliet, when did he change his name? not finding a death under either?

or maybe not? as I see he left Poland with wife...ah...

Name: Vikter Stephen Zlotnicki ( Cordwainer)
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Spouse Name: Susan Elizabeth Hart
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Mar 1857
Parish: St Peter, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Theodore Zlotnicki (Farmer)
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Gardener Hart (carpenter)

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Name: Viktor Stephen Zlotnicki
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 520 (click to see others on page)

Over to you Flick.

Trying to find relatives of Viktor Zlotnicki born about 1830 in Poland. Viktor left Poland with his wife and children and came to England where he changed his name to Victor Golding. He lived in the London area.