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Hi my names Suzanne Porter - I’m in search for some information about my Great Grandfather. His name was Frederick Michael Ruddy born C1981. His profession when he was older was: Stker R.N Hills "Lord Nelson"(Ship Platers Helper). He Married Ann Dick & they had two children Ethel & Freda Ruddy (who was my Grandmother and later became Porter)

I could only find one "Fred Ruddy" on the 1901 census who was born in Bootle Merseyside England, and automatically thought this could be my grandfather however after doing a little more research i think this is probably unlikely - as when I looked for both Ann & Frederick on the 1911 Census neither of them appeared - however I know they did move back to Stockton-on-Tees by November 1915 as this is where & when my Grandmother Freda was born.

If anyone has any information that would be helpful that would great thanks

I assume he was born 1881!] Marriage, just for reference:

Marriages Sep 1908
DICK Ann Stockton 10a 142
RUDDY Frederick Stockton 10a 142

Do you have this? Would be very useful for occupation, father's details.

also for ref ...

Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
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Ruddy Ethel Dick Stockton 10a 73

Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
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Ruddy Freda Dick Stockton 10a 134

Hi Suzanne,

I see you Grandmother married in Stockton.. so presumably the family was still living in the area when she married? If so i wonder about this death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Michael F Ruddy
Name: Michael F Ruddy
Death Registration Month/Year: 1938
Age at death (estimated): 51
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 95



Giving a rough year of birth of 1887.



Dee x

This maybe the census to the death I found;

1901 England Census about Michael Ruddy
Name: Michael Ruddy
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary E
Gender: Male
Where born: South Bank, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Stockton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 86
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ruddy 37
Mary E Ruddy 37
Michael Ruddy 14
Thomas Ruddy 12
John Ruddy 11
Mathew Ruddy 2
Joseph Ruddy 1



Dee x

I'm thinking that without details from the marriage cert we won't get anywhere. Have searched 1911 till I'm going cross-eyed and nothing obvious stands out.
Jan

Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for all your help!! I wasn’t expecting such a large response. Firstly yes sorry yes he was born C1881 not 1981 like I put!!

Firstly Brummiejan can I ask how you found out that Marriage date - as I have been searching for it on http://www.stocktonroots.co.uk/ so I could order the marriage cert so could then find out who Fredericks parents were.

Batman daughter - thank you so much for all the information you have provided. The death of Frederick Ruddy in 1938 may link in as my father never knew the name of his grandfather (I had to find out this information from my grandmothers (Freda) birth cert. Again thought neither the Birth or Death is on the Stockton Roots website - which I find strange as I have found all of Ann’s family on there & Freda & Ethel are also both on there too.

regards
Suzanne

Hi Suzanne,

When and Where was Ann Dick born..... we maybe able to find her on the 1911 census with these details?


Dee x

Apologies if I disappear again, electric went off and then I lost my connection... hopefully all sorted now though.


Dee x

Hi Dee

Ann Dick Born C1892 the family lived at:
65 Thornaby Road, Thornaby, STOCKTON-ON-TEES, Cleveland, England

She had 4 other siblins and her mother and father were called: Thomas Dick & Martha Evans.

I have found Ann on the 1901 Census however i could not find her on the 1911 census.

Regards
Suzanne

So just for reference;

1901 England Census about Ann Dick
Name: Ann Dick
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Thornaby, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Thornaby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Thornaby
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Dick 41
Martha Dick 40
William T Dick 17
Walter Dick 16
Edward Dick 14
Levina Dick 12
Ann Dick 9


Dee x

Hi Dee

Yes all the information you have posted in correct - these are all the names i have in my tree which link to Ann.

Regards
Suzanne

I haven't any credits to check this out on the 1911 census;

MILITARY RUDDY MICHAEL 1887 24 Overseas Military


Not seeing anything for Ann.


Dee x

Well thank you Dee for all your help with this - was just wondering do you think they called Frederick - Michael instead of calling him Frederick (if that makes sense). I know its strange that Ann doesnt seem to appear anywhere on the 1911.

Regards
Suzanne

Hi Suzanne,

I really don't know if they called him Michael or Frederick.

I think your best bet is to get their marriage certificate, Brummiejan has supplied the info needed. It should give both their ages, their fathers names and occupations and very often the witnesses are family members which is also a great help.


All the best, Dee x

well thank you again for all your help i will be ordering that cert a.s.a.p

Regards
Suzanne

Hi Suzanne, just got back! The marriage info is from Freebmd:

www.freebmd.org.uk

This site is invaluable for births, marriages & deaths 1837-about 1940.

Jan

Probably not your Frederick Ruddy but
Liverpool Mercury March 25th 1897
Colonial Doctors Divorce Suit

Dr. James Duncan Caddy for a divorce by the alleged adultery of his wife Mrs. Florence Caddy with the co respondent Mr.Frederick Ruddy an Officer of the Excise at Carriacou West Indies.