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Angela

So you can confirm that Elizabeth Fallon's father is Henry?
Who is James father ?
What are the occupations of both fathers?

thank you tootyfruity for that information,yes im on right track,been to my local registrar office just to make sure im not running on wrong track,so up to now everything is right
thanx once again
angela

Hi Angela

I am willing to help you but please put an update on your thread on History directing the Berry research to this thread and keep the other just for the Holden line. This is to avoid duplicate research.

Here is a possible for Elizabeth Fallon on 1891 census record

Name: Elizabeth Fallon
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Kearsley, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Kearsley
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Fallon 40
Margaret Fallon 39
William H Fallon 15
Sarah E Fallon 12
Elizabeth Fallon 10
Emily Fallon 7
Thomas Fallon 4
Mary A Fallon 1

Do you have the Marriage Certificate for James Berry and Elizabeth Fallon? This will give the fathers names so keep you on the right track.

just an update
james berry dob 1875 married in1899 -------to----------
elizabeth fallon unsure on dob
lived in kearsley bolton had 7 children

margaret ann -----1900
emily-----------------1901
arthur----------------1903
elizabeth------------1905
annie-----------------1907
nora------------------1910
james henry--------1912-----married mary holden---1934

please can any one help me with any more information.
i would be very grateful
thank you
angela

thank you michael for that info will do just that

Any updates should be attached to original thread.
The general rule is one post per family to avoid research being duplicated.

tootyfruity
im just updating what info i have to see if i can go back futher in the family tree, is this not what i need to do ?? i am new to this and im unsure how i go about it
angela

On 5 July you started a thread on history asking for the same information. This information was readily given so I don't understand why you then started this thread yesterday so that the same research is repeated.

Please do not post same request twice

i will have a look at the info and post what i think my head is blowing up haha
im getting confused,im certain about my nan and grandad which are
james henry berry born oct 1912 ---died june 1977
mary holden born ------feb 1913 -----died march2008
they had 10 children and lived in bolton

my grandad had 2 sisters and 2 brother

annie berry she married nathan coucil who was a sub marine captain,they had 2 children,elsie and nathan
fredrick berry
arthur berry
joeseph berry

my nan had 1sister and 2 brothers

alice holden ----feb 1919
john holden ----feb 1922
kenneth holden---1926

my nans mother was called
ann ------1889 married john holden ---

this is were i get mixed up

anns mum was called
alice ------1858 married -john sutton----1861

that all i know all the dates are birth dates

they live in and around bolton and westhoughton

There's also this one ......


Marriage: 17 Feb 1900 St Stephen, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England
James Berry - (X), Full Dataller Bachelor of Kearsley Moor
Elizabeth Tatlock - (X), Full Widow of Kearsley Moor
Witness: John Schofield; Sarah Schofield, (X)
Source: Registers held at St Stephens

Could this be his christening ?

Baptisms: 22 Feb 1876 Kearsley Mount Methodist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England

James Berry - Child of James Berry & Charlotte Susannah
Born: 13 Jan 1876
Abode: Kearsley

for ref the other marriage

Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)
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Barlow Emma Bolton 8c 602
Berry James Bolton 8c 602
Marland Mary Ellen L Bolton 8c 602
Rushton John Bolton 8c 602

This James?
1901 England Census
James Berry Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Kearsley, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Kearsley Ecclesiastical parish: Farnworth St Peter Town: Kearsley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England 134 Primrose Street Coal Miner Hewer
Registration district: Bolton Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 114
James Berry 26
Elizabeth Berry 20
Margaret A Berry 1
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3601; Folio: 115; Page: 20.

What is his Father's name from the marriage certificate?
Thank-you.

1911 census

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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BERRY, James Head M 34 1877 Coal Miner Hewer Kearsley Lanc VIEW
BERRY, Elizabeth Wife F 31 1880 Kearsley Lanc VIEW
BERRY, Margaret Ann Daughter F 11 1900 School Kearsley Lanc VIEW
BERRY, Emily Daughter F 10 1901 School Kearsley Lanc VIEW
BERRY, Arthur Son M 8 1903 Kearsley Lanc VIEW
BERRY, Elizabeth F 6 1905 Kearsley Lanc VIEW
BERRY, Annie F 4 1907 Kearsley Lanc VIEW
BERRY, Nora F 1 1910 Kearsley Lanc VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23271 Reference:
RG14PN23271 RG78PN1359 RD461 SD1 ED20 SN358

Registration District:
Bolton Sub District:
Farnworth Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Kearsley

Address:
6 Old Hall St Kearsley Farnworth S O County:
Lancashire


Are you sure he married Elizabeth Fallon because I have also found this on 1911

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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BERRY, James Head Married M 36 1875 Life Insurance Agent Lancashire Farnworth VIEW
BERRY, Mary Ellen Wife Married F 37 1874 Lancashire Little Lever VIEW
BERRY, Harold Son M 6 1905 School Lancashire Kersley VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23263 Reference:
RG14PN23263 RG78PN1359 RD461 SD1 ED12 SN103

Registration District:
Bolton Sub District:
Farnworth Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Farnworth

Address:
81 St German St Farnworth County:
Lancashire

1881

Henry FALLON Head M Male 32 Kersley, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Margaret FALLON Wife M Female 30 Kersley, Lancashire, England Coal Miners Wife
Willian Hy. FALLON Son U Male 6 Kersley, Lancashire, England Scholar
Sarah Ellen FALLON Daughter U Female 2 Kersley, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth FALLON Daughter U Female 4 m Kersley, Lancashire, England
John DAWSON Grandfather W Male 77 Kersley, Lancashire, England Annuitant


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Back Market
Census Place Kearsley, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341912
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3817 / 88
Page Number 21

For reference


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Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
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BERRY James Bolton 8c 543
Broom Mary Jane Bolton 8c 543
Draffin Johnston Bolton 8c 543
Fallon Elizabeth Bolton 8c 543

loking for info on james berry ----1877
who married in 1899 to
elizabeth fallon----------1880
and any other info you can give me on the surnames of both sides.i would be very greatful.
thank you