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im trying toput together the early part of this family.
i have john gilders b 1801 (master malster ) married to lucy hackshall, i would like to know if he had any brothers and sisters,i found a william gilders b 1976, both born st osyth, i have
information given to me that john s parents were Aaron gilders & francis harvey , but no proof of this , any help would be appreciated as i live in exeter .......thank you amanda

1881

John GILDER Head M Male 53 St Osyth, Essex, England Maltster
Mary GILDER Wife M Female 57 Lt Holland, Essex, England
Mary J. GILDER Daur U Female 23 Gt Clacton, Essex, England
Ada E. GILDER Daur Female 15 Gt Clacton, Essex, England Scholar
Laura GILDER Daur Female 13 Gt Clacton, Essex, England Scholar
Eddie GILDER Grandson Male 3 Maidstone, Kent, England
Eliza SUTHENWOOD Servant U Female 18 Wormingford, Essex, England General Servt Domestic


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Source Information:
Dwelling Gt Clacton Street
Census Place Great Clacton, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341429
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1779 / 17
Page Number 2

1881

Elizabeth COURTNEY Officer U Female 20 Middlesex City, Middlesex, England School Mistress (Muni)
Marion F. KENT Officer U Female 18 Leeds, York, England Assistant Matron
Mary THOMPSON Officer U Female 24 Pickering, York, England Nurse
James PRIOR Officer U Male 24 Bradfield, Essex, England Porter
William JACKSON Inmate U Male 56 Ramsey, Essex, England General Labourer (Pauper)
James JOHNSON Inmate U Male 70 Great Holland, Essex, England Butcher (Pauper)
John OSBORNE Inmate U Male 54 Elmstead, Essex, England General Labourer (Pauper)
Joseph LORD Inmate W Male 77 Tendring, Essex, England Blacksmith (Pauper)
William WOODLEY Inmate W Male 81 Norwich, Norfolk, England Ag Lab (Pauper)
Isaac SMITH Inmate W Male 73 Elmstead, Essex, England General Labourer (Pauper)
William ROBERTSON Inmate W Female 65 South Shield, Durham, England Shipwright (Pauper)
Mark BOWTEL Inmate W Male 85 Lt Bromley, Essex, England Ag Labourer (Pauper)
James WATCHAM Inmate W Male 82 Milton, Kent, England Sailor (Pauper)
John GILDERS Inmate W Male 63 St Osyth, Essex, England General Labourer (Pauper)
John PURLEY Inmate W Male 76 Boxford, Suffolk, England Sailor (Pauper)
John BROOM Inmate W Male 61 Stutton, Suffolk, England General Labourer (Pauper)
James LING Inmate W Male 60 Worcester, England General Labourer (Pauper)
William WOODS Inmate U Male 64 Frating, Essex, England General Labourer (Pauper)
William FROST Inmate W Male 67 Ardleigh, Essex, England Ag Labourer (Pauper)
John BARTON Inmate W Male 71 Lt Bentley, Essex, England Ag Labourer (Pauper)
(Continued)


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Source Information:
Institution "Union Workhouse"
Census Place Tendring, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341430
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1780 / 43
Page Number 12

The History House has a list from White's directoty of 1848, John is there,also a William Gilders, shopkeeper.
Eileen

1881

James H. HOBROW Husband (Head) M Male 31 Wivenhoe, Essex, England Carpenter
Maria HOBROW Wife M Female 39 Switzerland
Eliza GILDERS Servant U Female 23 St Osyth, Essex, England Cook (Domestic)


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Source Information:
Dwelling Redholm Qu Rd
Census Place Richmond, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341199
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0843 / 15
Page Number 24

1881

Elizabeth GILDERS Head W Female 60 St Osyth, Essex, England Charwoman
Walter GILDERS Son U Male 20 Brightlingsea, Essex, England Seaman
Thomas BANYARD Boarder U Male 31 Tollesbury, Essex, England Farm Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling Chapel Rd
Census Place Brightlingsea, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341431
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1786 / 5
Page Number 4

1881

Robert PIPER Other M Male 39 Beal, York, England Master
Joseph GILDERS Other U Male 25 St Osyth, Essex, England Mate
Carl NILSSON Other U Male 17 Sweden O Seaman
Walter WITHANS Other U Male 18 Bradwell, Essex, England O Seaman


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Source Information:
Vessel "Emily"
Census Place West Teignmouth, Devon, England
Family History Library Film 1341520
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2157 / 175

1881
Joseph GILDERS Head M Male 47 St Osyth, Essex, England Commission Agent
Eliza GILDERS Wife M Female 46 Gt Clacton, Essex, England
Kate GILDERS Daur Female 10 St Osyth, Essex, England Scholar
Louis S. GILDERS Son Male 8 St Osyth, Essex, England Scholar
Lillia M. GILDERS Daur Female 5 St Osyth, Essex, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Spring Road
Census Place St Osyth, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341429
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1779 / 142
Page Number 14

1881

Geo. GILDERS Head M Male 49 St Osyth, Essex, England Salesman Mercht
Mary A. GILDERS Wife M Female 47 Stroud, Gloucester, England
Lydia E. GILDERS Daur U Female 24 St Osyth, Essex, England No Occupatn
Archibald G. GILDERS Son U Male 23 St Osyth, Essex, England ((Salesman Merch))
Lucretia GILDERS Daur U Female 22 St Osyth, Essex, England No Occupatn
Charles C. GILDERS Son U Male 20 St Osyth, Essex, England Clerk Merchants
Rhoderic ? N. GILDERS Son U Male 17 St Osyth, Essex, England Clerk Merchants
Leonard F. GILDERS Son U Male 15 St Osyth, Essex, England
Cecil E. GILDERS Son U Male 13 St Osyth, Essex, England
Montague H. GILDERS Son U Male 11 St Osyth, Essex, England
Bertrand F. GILDERS Son U Male 8 Colchester, Essex, England
Inez Mabel GILDERS Daur U Female 6 Colchester, Essex, England
Charlet PENDLE Serv M Female 27 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Gen Dom Serv


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Grove Villas The Grove
Census Place West Ham, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341407
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1705 / 133
Page Number 7

thank you all for your response,
i have access to the census records, i really need someone who is visiting the records office for the area of st osyth essex as the info i need will be on parish records.......amanda

The Essex Standard June 6th 1868
Gilders on June 1st at St Osyth age 78 ,Mrs Gilders widow of Mr.John Gilders late a maltster of the above place

The Bury and Norwich Post and Suffolk Herald
September 6th 1854
On the 2nd inst age 58 Mr. John Gilders Maltster of St Osyth. On Friday night while in London deceased was attacked with Cholera and died on Saturday night

thanks quoy,
the death of mrs gilders, of the above, where was it ?such a shame it does nt give her first name !
and john on the 2nd inst ? what does that mean ?
where did you access the papers ?......so many questions................amanda

2nd inst would mean the 2nd of that month

you say you ahve the census information ....... but then you should know that "Mrs Gilders" was called Lucy!



I post the 1851 Census as a reference point for the helpers


1851 Census

Name: John Gilders
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: St Osyth, Essex, England

Civil parish: St Osyth
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Tendring
Sub-registration district: St Osyth

John Gilders 50 Malster, Master employing 3 Labourers
Lucy Gilders 60 b.ca 1791, Great Clacton, Essex
Lucy Gilders 20 b.ca 1831, St Osyth
George Gilders 19 b.ca 1832, St Osyth



In 1841, there were several more children at home

Name Age
John Gilders 40
Lucy Gilders 50
John Gilders 13
Lucy Gilders 11
George Gilders 10
Joseph Gilders 7
William Abrey 20 <<<<<< Police Constable, but apparently living in a separate part of the same house

Address:- Spring Street



sylvia

3 Public Family Trees on ancestry.co.uk have John's father as Aaron (or Aron) Gilders (Guilders). 1758-1808

Two of those trees have his mother as Frances Harvey

Father of Aron Gilders is given in one tree as George Guilders. Mother is Mary (surname unknown)





Have you tried this site?????

opc means Online Parich Clerks ... a project attempting to get information from parish registers online. I don't know whether you will find anything, and it may take some searching, but try it and see what is there.


www.essex-opc.org.uk






sylvia

thank you sylvia,
i forgot that lucy was 10 years older than john ,thats why i did nt think it was the same one, hence mentioning her first name. sorry.
in my posting i said that john s parents were said to be Aaron gilders & francis harvey, i have seen this on ancestry ,but it is not sourced.
i think it is likely that william gilders b 1796 is his brother but have no proof , so the reason for my posting.
thank you for your time looking for me........amanda

no i have nt tried the online parish clerks, but i will , thanks for the info........amanda