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Mo

I know of Ontario, CA ...... we had friends who lived near there, and that was the airport if we wanted to fly to see them. We always drove!


Sorry about your OH's cousin xxxxx



Jonesy .... those brothers were French-Canadian. They ended up with a very moving documentary. One of them got the shot of the first plane hitting the tower ...... he heard a noise, turned round, looked up, and automatically lifted his camera, which was still filming.


I heard a very moving documentary on the radio one morning last week .................. about a girl in Grade 7 (so about 12) in one of the 20 or so elementary and middle schools in Manhattan. Her school was 2 blocks from the towers.


No-one seems to have bothered much with the trauma these kids had ............... she and her friends were released by the school to walk home alone past all the devastation, hearing and seeing literally everything, including the people jumping.

She was finally diagnosed with PTSD 2 years ago ................ after years of being given various drugs for depression, AD, becoming an alcoholic, etc.




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Sylvia-I got a laugh out of the passenger who knew it wasn't San Francisco but had no idea where it could be. The first time OH and I flew to SF the plane was either stopping at or going on to LA/Ontario CA airport. To his terminal embarrassment Mike thought the plane was detouring to Canada.

So many tears out there today. OH's cousin Tom (Reinig).

Moxxxx

I was at work in my shop and my eldest son rang me as he was watching events unfold on television. A few years earlier we had both stood on the roof of the South tower. I have numerous pictures taken whilst on there, you could see for miles as the observation platform had an ordinary low level railing which allowed an unrestricted view.

I still find it hard to conceive how something so seemingly solid could collapse in such a short space of time.

Sylvia, There was a documentary on UK satellite television last night that was very moving. It was made by two brothers (Possibly French Canadian) who were making a film charting the progress of a new recruit in the FDNY based at a fire house near to the towers. As fate would have it one of the brothers was accompanying the fire chief when the first plane struck so they immediately went to tower one. A lot of the footage was shot inside the lobby of the building as numerous fire crews arrived and assembled in preparation to ascend. Most of those men seen in the shots lost their lives although miraculously all of the 50 crew who were based at the fire house where the recruit was stationed survived.

The shots inside the building as it began to disintegrate were amazing and the courage of those who remained inside trying to help others was beyond belief.

we were supposed to leave Vancouver for the UK on September 12, 2001.

Instead, there were 110 planes on the tarmac at Vancouver airport ........... 34 diverted there on 9/11, and the rest unable to take off as planned. Over 8,500 passengers were being "housed" in various places. The planes were lined up cheek by jaw ..... it was the most incredible sight to see so many big passenger jets all at once.


I do remember one quite scary moment ................ we were sitting in our local coffee shop on the afternoon of 9/11 when all h*** broke loose as an F18 fighter screeched right overhead, heading towards the airport.

Turned out that one airliner (Chinese, I believe) had not responded to certain commands, so two fighter planes were scrambled form the Canadian base on Vancouver Island, and escorted it into Vancouver Airport, just in case.


You cannot believe the noise those things can make unless you are sitting less than 500' below them!


Incredibly, the passengers on all but one of the diverted planes did not know a) they were being diverted, b) why they were being diverted, or c) where they were going. Some of them were not even told after they landed ........... not until they were de-palned (often many hours after landing) did they find out they were in Vancouver, and why.

One passenger reported that he knew it wasn't San Francisco when he saw the mountains, but he couldn't think where it was!

Only one pilot told his passengers exactly what was happening, and why.



We did manage to re-book our tickets, and left on the Friday (the 14th, I believe).




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Jonesy


loved the not gilding the lily story :-D

Fans


a very difficult time for you.

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lovely sunny day again .... about 25C in our back garden at the moment (ca 12:30pm)

Hi all
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been busy-ish this morning


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Ah the innocence of youth ;-)

Albert...Lily.....spill?

We need a LIKE button on here.....
First time I have heard it called a Lily...!
I have now got a giggle stuck in my chest.......Thanks Mr Jones... :-D

I have returned! Sorry to have been missing but a lot of sport on the telly today, Rugby, Cricket, Motor Racing and two Premiership Football matches to keep up with so my attention has been elsewhere.

On the subject of personal appearance. Sorry Cyn but I'm afraid that I have a beard to which I have become quite attached having had it now for almost 50 years. When I first grew it my grandmother hated it saying that she thought it made me look like an old man. That was when I was in my late teens so I don't know what she would say it made me look like now. As far as keeping the shirt buttoned quite high is concerned I have always favoured polo neck jumpers rather than shirts so no worries there then. I have been known to wear an open neck shirt whilst on holiday but only in sunnier climes.

As far as "Man" jewellery is concerned I do have a full sovereign on a neck chain which was presented to me by my fellow employees when I left my last "Proper" job 26 years ago. They said that it was something to remember them by but I knew it was a token of their joy that I was leaving. I don't have a Prince Albert as I never saw the need to gild the lily.

On the subject of personal hygiene I would have you know that I have a bath twice a year whether I need one or not. For soap you can't beat carbolic but the bar that I bought in 1957 is almost all gone now. I have never used after shave as I do not believe that you should use astringents on your legs.

Whilst I may not be a pin up these days, in days gone by lots of people used to attach my photo to their walls,either as a "Wanted" poster or something to throw darts at.

Have I missed somthing...where is Sylv?

I had a good friend who used to sell all this expensive cleansers and Moisturisers...last time I saw her 10 years ago she had wrinkles...I still hav'nt got any with good ole water and vaseline intensive care.

I am sure my aunt who has some beauty clinic would argue with the amount of money she is making out of it.

Cant remember when I last used a bar of soap for the rest of my body though, hand pump on the sink and shower gel in the shower (I never have a bath)

ja...x

Some people are lucky to have a good skin (genetic) that will take lots of hammer and water varies in the country

But soap has been proven to dry out the skin

I use a non soap face wash even though we have very soft water

We also use hand wash pumps....germs stick in soap, thats why kids used to pick up worms at school....nice

Cyns....I hate hairy men, lucky for me JB has an almost hair free body and his hair line is perfect even before a cut....wish mine was!

How on earth did our ancestors survive with nice skin when all they had was bad old soap and water to wash with?

My maternal nan had the most wonderful skin (she used only lavender scented soap when older)and my paternal nan had pretty good skin for someone who didnt use soap and water very often...Only when totally necessary .

The water was brought up in buckets from the well and she said it was a waste to wash the family in it until she had washed clothes in it first.!
A cows lick with a wet cloth the rest of the time sufficed.

Come to think of it me dad has rather good skin and he is now 83 and never used owt but soap and water... : :-P

Cant think of any of my female family until the this generation that has used make up very much...Maybe thats the secret..

I DO long for 'bubbles' in my bath but I am not allowed them !

Dea Xxx :-(

Twice a day Ginns !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For medical reasons - not out of choice, I can assure you !! - It gerts a bit boring lying there for half an hour twice a day !!

I lie there thinking - "there must be more to life than this !!!"

Hey ho !!

At least I am still here !

Dea Xxx

And you told me you only bath once a week...naughty Dea!