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AnnCardiff
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1 Jul 2010 13:25 |
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My granddad left some paperwork on our family tree. On it he wrote that his father Thomas Myers was married before to a lady called Annie Bowker and they had 3 children John Fred (1876)(known as Fred), Robert (1874) and a Eliza (1978).
I had heard of Fred but can't find any info on Annie Bowker or the other children, not even sure they really existed!
Thank you in advance
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MissMyers
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1 Jul 2010 07:46 |
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Thomas' mothers maiden name was Richardson
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BatMansDaughter
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1 Jul 2010 00:39 |
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Thomas with his parents and siblings;
1871 England Census about Thomas Myers Name: Thomas Myers Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick Mother's Name: Lucy Gender: Male Where born: Gosberton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Gosberton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Gosberton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Myers 48 >> Publican and Land Owner Lucy Myers 44 Thomas Myers 16 Jane Myers 8 Samuel Myers 10 Lucy Myers 7 Benjamin Myers 5 1861 England Census about Thomas Myers Name: Thomas Myers Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Frederick Mother's Name: Lucy Gender: Male Where born: Gosberton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Gosberton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Gosberton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Myers 38 >> Thrashing machine man Lucy Myers 35 James F Myers 10 Thomas Myers 6 Harriett Myers 4 Samuel Myers 7 Mo 1851 England Census about Fredrick Myers Name: Fredrick Myers Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Lucy Gender: Male Where born: Boston, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Gosberton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Pinchbeck ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Fredrick Myers 28 Lucy Myers 23 James Myers 1 Mo Lucy Myers 57 Visitor Sarah Myers 12 Daughter
There is a marriage in 1850 in Spalding for Frederick to Lucy Richardson.
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BatMansDaughter
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1 Jul 2010 00:29 |
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Hi
I did wonder if this was Thomas Myers, but then dismissed it because of the age difference... but it looks like the right chap now;
1901 England Census about Thomas Myers Name: Thomas Myers Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Gosberton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Gosberton Ecclesiastical parish: Gosberton Town: Gosberton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: farmer
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Gosberton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Myers 45 Annie Myers 46 Frederick Myers 25 Lilian Bridges 18 Servant Alfred Dodson 16 visitor
1891 England Census about Thomas Myers Name: Thomas Myers Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Gosberton, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Chorlton On Medlock Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: financial agent/broker
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Myers 36 Annie Myers 37 John F Myers 15 Alice Fax 23 Servant 1881 England Census about Thos. Myers Name: Thos. Myers Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Gosberton, Lincoln, England Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 8 Sedan St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Engine Fitter At Wks Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Brightside ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thos. Myers 27 Annie Myers 28 Jno.F. Myers 5 Minnie Bramhall 16 Visitor
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MissMyers
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30 Jun 2010 23:14 |
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Thomas' first wife was called Annie Bowker
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MissMyers
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30 Jun 2010 23:12 |
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Oh My goodness, you guys are amazing as this all fits with what I have got but was struggling to get any further. Sorry disappeared didn't expect such quick response if any!
It's good to see that Thomas and Lucy did get married as most of the children don't have a father on their birth certificate (something my grandad was quite ashamed of and never told us). My granddad grew up in an children's home and the siblings were all split.
Any ideas of Thomas siblings? I knew there was a Benjamin and I have been told a Nell (not sure what this stands for)
Granddad also had a half brother called John Fred (known as Fred) who there were thought he could be the real biological father as thomas was pretty old when the children were born. I think Fred had siblings but don't know names.
I'll stay for a bit just in case!!!
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:33 |
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Sadly this looks possible for as a death for Lucy;
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Lucy Myers Name: Lucy Myers Death Registration Month/Year: 1923 Age at death (estimated): 39 Registration district: Spalding Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 436
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:30 |
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There is another marriage in 1980 in Devon for Lewis B Myers... did he marry again shortly before death??
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:26 |
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Lewis's marriage;
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Lewis B C Myers Name: Lewis B C Myers Spouse Surname: Webber Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939 Registration district: Devon Central Registration county (inferred): Devonshire Volume Number: 5b Page Number: 227 Find Spouse: Daisy Webber
IF you want children fo this marriage just ask and I will send the details through via a privat message (PM).
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:19 |
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Hi AOGG,
just like most of them........... it seems to have happened to me all day today, hey ho, on I'll go.
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:18 |
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In 1911 Lucy is in London;
HOUSEHOLD CARRATT LUCY F 1885 26 Wandsworth London
Also with her;
HOUSEHOLD ROSE PADLEY F 1851 60 Wandsworth London HOUSEHOLD SELLERS CAROLINE REBECCA F 1876 35 Wandsworth London
I don't have subs to see the full details but there are those on here that do 1911 census look ups.
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jun 2010 18:16 |
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well Miss Myers didn't hang around for long did she!!!!
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:13 |
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1881 England Census about William Carratt Name: William Carratt Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Quadring Fenn, Lincoln, England Civil parish: Quadring County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address: Fenn Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Agr Labourer Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Donington ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Carratt 35 Elizabeth Carratt 28 Walter Carratt 7 Mathew Carratt 4 Ann Carratt 3 Emma Carratt 1 Possible marriage for parents;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brannam James Spalding 7a 660 Brannan James Spalding 7a 660 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Carratt William Spalding 7a 660 HEPTON Martha Ann Spalding 7a 660 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>REESON Elizabeth Spalding 7a 660
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:10 |
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The name is misspelt here;
1891 England Census about Lucy Carnett Name: Lucy Carnett Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Quadring, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Quadring Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret Town: Low Fen County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Donington ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Carnett 45 Elizabeth Carnett 38 Walker Carnett 17 Annie Carnett 13 Emma Carnett 11 Lucy Carnett 7 Herbert Carnett 4 & again;
1901 England Census about Lucy Carrott Name: Lucy Carrott Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Quadring, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Quadring Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Donington ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 88 Household Members: Name Age Edwd Clark 54 Anne Clark 54 Minnie Clark 27 Mahala Clark 26 George Clark 26 Selina Clark 25 Lucy Carrott 17
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:09 |
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More than likely her birth??
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CARRATT Lucy Spalding 7a 363
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:08 |
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Your G Grandmothers marriage to Mr Myers;
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carratt Lucy Myers Spalding 7a 737 Myers Thomas Carratt Spalding 7a 737
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BatMansDaughter
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30 Jun 2010 18:04 |
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Hi,
This looks like his death;
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Lewis Bernard C Myers Name: Lewis Bernard C Myers Birth Date: 16 Dec 1912 Death Registration Month/Year: 1981 Registration district: Exeter Inferred County: Devonshire Volume: 21 Page: 1300
Is the intial "C" for Carratt, I would suspect so.
If you were to order the death certificate it should say who registered his death, most likely a family member?? You can order from the General Register.
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jun 2010 17:54 |
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just looking on the census it seems Lincoln is full of Carratts - in more ways than one I would imagine!! none in Spalding though
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MissMyers
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30 Jun 2010 17:26 |
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Forgot to say he married a lady called Daisy don't know any more than this, very confusing family!
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MissMyers
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30 Jun 2010 17:25 |
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Hi, I am trying to find information on my grandad's brother Lewis. I have found birth register DOB 1913 Name on it is Lewis Carratt. It is possible he may have changed it to Myers as it seems most of my family did (no father on birth certificate). Any info would be great any anything else on Myers/Carratt family from Spalding area would be fantastic.
Thank you
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