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Can anyone please spot my relation Arthur Smitheringale in the 1911 census; he was born in 1884 in Eastwood, Nottinghamshire. I have an idea who his wife is but this doesn't correlate with info I have found on a marriage index! So hopefully the 1911 will clear it up one way or the other.

Also, Arthur died in Canada apparently; can anyone spot a death? I wouldn't know where to start looking for a death in Canada.

Thanks

Peter

Maybe

SMITHERINGALE ANNIE F 1887 24 Market Bosworth Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD SMITHERINGALE ANNIE ELIZABETH F 1910 4 MONTHS Market Bosworth Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD SMITHERINGALE ARTHER M 1885 26 Market Bosworth Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD SMITHERINGALE MAY F 1909 2 Market Bosworth Leicestershire

SMITHERINGALE, Arther Head Married
3 years M 26 1885 Chargeman Coal Miner Hewer Notts Eastwood VIEW
SMITHERINGALE, Annie Wife Married F 24 1887 Notts Eastwood VIEW
SMITHERINGALE, May Daughter F 2 1909 Notts Eastwood VIEW
SMITHERINGALE, Annie Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Leicestershire Ibstock VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19043 Reference:
RG14PN19043 RG78PN1139 RD403 SD2 ED5 SN122

Registration District:
Market Bosworth Sub District:
Ibstock Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Ibstock

Address:
41 Orchard St Ibstock Near Leicester County:
Leicestershire

I see what you mean about the marriage index

looks like you'll be best to get one of the childrens B/C

Births Dec 1910 (>99%)
SMITHERINGALE Annie E Mt. Bosworth 7a 67

1911 census transcription details for: 41 Orchard St Ibstock Near Leicester
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN19043 RG78PN1139 RD403 SD2 ED5 SN122

Reg. District: Market Bosworth Sub District: Ibstock
Parish: Ibstock Enum. District: 5
Address: 41 Orchard St Ibstock Near Leicester
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SMITHERINGALE, Arther Head Married
3 years M 26 1885 Chargeman Coal Miner Hewer Notts Eastwood
SMITHERINGALE, Annie Wife Married F 24 1887 Notts Eastwood
SMITHERINGALE, May Daughter F 2 1909 Notts Eastwood
SMITHERINGALE, Annie Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Leicestershire Ibstock

He enlisted for WW1 in Canada, in Stellarton, Nova Scotia,
Birth was 7 Sep. 1884, Eastwood, Nottinhghamshire.
Next-of-kin Annie, Stellarton, NS.

Mabye:

Name: Arthur Smitheringole
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Date of Arrival: 2 Aug 1912
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Ireland' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4789

Occupation: Miner

This is curious! A marriage in Ontario, Canada of an Arthur Smitheringale who was born Eastwood, Nottinghamshire. Same guy?

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Arthur Smitheringale
Name: Arthur Smitheringale
Birth Place: Eastwood Nothinghamshire Eng
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Father Name: Jos Prittie Smitheringale
Mother Name: Annie Maria Clifton Smitheringale
Spouse Name: Annie Fletcher
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse Birth Place: Eastwood Eng
Spouse Father Name: John Fletcher
Spouse Mother Name: Ann Lane
Marriage Date: 5 Feb 1908
Marriage Location: Wellington
Marriage County: Wellington
Archives of Ontario Microfilm


So, did they marry in Canada in 1908 then return to England in time for the 1911 census then return to Canada?

Even more strange seems there were two Arthurs???

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Mr SMITHERINGALE
Date of departure: 10 May 1904
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Quebec
Destination country: Canada
Date of Birth: 1884 (calculated from age)
Age: 20
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Miner
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 13 of 22
Ship: LAKE MANITOBA
Official Number:
Master's name: J A Murray
Steamship Line:
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 26270
Registered tonnage: 8852
Passengers on voyage: 953

1891, note parents names:

Name: Arthur Smitheringale
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Eastwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Eastwood
Town: Eastwood
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Smitheringale 36 born West Deeping, London N.B. should be Lincolnshire
Annie Smitheringale 31 born Beausale, Nottinghamshire, England
Eliza Smitheringale 11
Harriet Smitheringale 8
Alice Smitheringale 10
Arthur Smitheringale 6
Alfred Smitheringale 3
Joseph H Smitheringale 2

Edit Joseph Snr's father is Henry Smitheringale born c1827 in Maxey, N'hants according to the 1881 census.

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
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CLIFTON Anne Maria Basford 7b 228a
Smitheringale Joseph Basford 7b 228a

From Ancestry message boards here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.smitheringale/1/mb.ashx

"I am researching my Smitheringale line from Nottingham, Lincoln and Northampton. My grgrgr grandfather is Henry Smitheringale born abt 1827 Maxey Northampton married Alice Barber (or Barker) brn abt 1812 West Deeping, Lincoln. Their son Joseph Pretty Smitheringale br 1855 West Deeping, Lincoln married Annie Clifton br abt 1860 Newthorpe, Nottingham. Their son Arthur Smitheringale br 1884 Eastwood, Nottingham married Sarah Anne Fletcher br 1886 Eastwood, Nottingham. Sarah (known as Anne) brought the family to Stellarton, NS, Canada May 1913 to join her husband who was already there (don't know exactly when he got here). They lived in Stellarton for a number of years before moving onto Minto, NB, Canada. Their daughter Annie br 1910 Ibstock (?), Nottingham married Edgar Launcelot McLeod br 1883 Minto, NB. My father Edgar Fletcher came from this union. I would be interested to hear from any Smitheringale's in England. Thanks, Cathy Lucas"

Whoa, this is getting a little confusing now ... so, does that mean Arthur was married twice? Also, if this is not the case, then who on earth is the Arthur who is marrying a lady in England in 1909? I can't see any other Arthur Smitheringale's in England on Free BMD.

Now RE the marriage in Ontario, I have Arthur's father as been Joseph Pretty Smitheringale and his mother as being Anne E Bentley, and not Clifton!

May I suggest to clarify exactly who Arthur Smitheringale's parents were that you obtain a copy of either his birth certificate:

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Smitheringale Arthur Basford 7b 110

Or what appears to be his parents marriage:

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
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BENTLEY Ann Elizabeth Basford 7b 228a
Bentley Anne Elizabeth Basford 7b 228a
CLIFTON Anne Maria Basford 7b 228a
Smith Samuel Basford 7b 228a
Smitheringale Joseph Basford 7b 228a

If ordering the latter do not specify a female name only Joseph Smitheringale.

This sort of ties in with the Smitheringale post on Ancestry:

Name: Sarah A Smitheringale
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Date of Arrival: 9 Jun 1913
Vessel: Mongolian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Mongolian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4749

Travelling to Stellarton. Accompanied by May aged 4, Annie E aged 2 and Leslie aged 3 months.

Births Sep 1908 (>99%)
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Smitheringale May Basford 7b 194

Births Dec 1910 (>99%)
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SMITHERINGALE Annie E Mt. Bosworth 7a 67

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Smitheringale Leslie Fletcher Basford 7b 386

So somebody chose the wrong Ann that he married.

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
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BENTLEY Ann Elizabeth Basford 7b 228a
Bentley Anne Elizabeth Basford 7b 228a
CLIFTON Anne Maria Basford 7b 228a
Smith Samuel Basford 7b 228a
Smitheringale Joseph Basford 7b 228a

Just had a thought. Perhaps the couple first met and married in Canada and on their return to the UK married one another a second time to appease their parents.

My son and his wife did similar, marrying first in Jamaica ( on a beach) and then again in England.

But he didn't marry the same person in 1909, Jonesey.

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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BROUGHTON Rebecca Basford 7b 435
COOPER Elizabeth Basford 7b 435
LILLEY Thomas Henry Basford 7b 435
SMITHERINGALE Arthur Basford 7b 435

Margaret, that was a different Arthur:

SMITHERINGALE, Arthur Head Married M 21 1890 M K Loco Engine Cleaner Nothamptonshire Maxey VIEW
SMITHERINGALE, Rebecca Wife Married
1 years F 21 1890 Nottinghamshire Kirkby in A VIEW
SMITHERINGALE, Elsie Broughton Daughter F 1 1910 Nottinghamshire Kirkby in A VIEW
SMITHERINGALE, Ivy Mary Daughter F 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Nottinghamshire Kirkby in A VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20378 Reference:
RG14PN20378 RG78PN1221 RD429 SD1 ED23 SN59

Registration District:
Basford Sub District:
Greasley Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Kirkby in Ashfield

Address:
12 Diamond Avenue East Kirkby Nottinghamshire County:
Nottinghamshire

Going by this ones birthplace he may have been a cousin of the other Arthur.

Wow thank you for this help! Wow, well you have found another Arthur SMitheringale, and I agree, that I need to order a birth or marriage certificate to confirm who is whose mother and wife! Saying this, I couldn't find another Arthur Smitheringale on FREE BMD hence why I ASSUMED (to make an ass of me and you), why the 1909 marriage was for Arthur Smitheringale!

Well I have learnt something there!

Marriage dec 1879 7b 228a reference ends with a 'a'.
I feel that there has been an amendment to the certificate
Joan