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19 Jun 2010 20:55 |
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The person I am trying to match is :-
Births Jun 1851 NICHOLSON Mary Ann Bridlington 23 28
The two single line census that seem to match are :-
1861 Nicholson Mary 1851 Brant Broughton Bridlington, Bridlington
and after marriage 1891 Gray Mary 1852 Bridlington Quay Bridlington, Bridlington
I cannot see a place near Bridlington with a name like Brant Broughton so please can anybody see an 1861 census for her that shows her with family that could solve the riddle.
Many thanks, Frances
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alviegal
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19 Jun 2010 20:58 |
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This one?
1861 census transcription details for: Queen Street, Bridlington National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3613 Folio: 7 Page: 7 Reg. District: Bridlington Sub District: 2 Bridlington Parish: Bridlington Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch City/Municipal Borough: Address: Queen Street, Bridlington County: Yorkshire (East Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born NICHOLSON, Richard Head Married M 42 1819 Poulterer North Chapel Yorkshire NICHOLSON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1828 ... Yorkshire NICHOLSON, George Son M 12 1849 Scholar Mapperton Yorkshire NICHOLSON, Mary Ann Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Brant Broughton Yorkshire NICHOLSON, Nance Rivon Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Brant Broughton Yorkshire NICHOLSON, John Shainging Son M 8 1853 Scholar Brant Broughton Yorkshire NICHOLSON, Alfred Son M 6 1855 Scholar Brant Broughton Yorkshire NICHOLSON, Margaret Hannah Daughter F 3 1858 Scholar Bridlington Bury Yorkshire NICHOLSON, Richard Son Unmarried M 1 1860 Infant Bridlington Yorkshire
and the 1891 you have.
1891 census transcription details for: 19 & 20, Queen Street, Bridlington National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 3959 Folio: 121 Page: 8 Reg. District: Bridlington Sub District: Bridlington Parish: Bridlington Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch City/Municipal Borough: Address: 19 & 20, Queen Street, Bridlington County: Yorkshire (East Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born GRAY, Robert Head Married M 39 1852 Grocer Bridlington Quay Yorkshire GRAY, Mary A Wife Married F 39 1852 Bridlington Quay Yorkshire GRAY, John R Son M 13 1878 Scholar Bridlington Quay Yorkshire GRAY, Herbert H Son M 11 1880 Scholar Bridlington Quay Yorkshire GRAY, Edith M Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Bridlington Quay Yorkshire GRAY, Elsie M Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar Bridlington Quay Yorkshire GRAY, Maggie B Daughter F 2 1889 Bridlington Quay Yorkshire GRAY, Harry S Son M 0 (11M) 1891 Bridlington Quay Yorkshire KIRBY, Thomas H Boarder Single M 28 1863 Grocers Assistant Pickering Yorkshire
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Vera
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19 Jun 2010 21:00 |
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1861 Mary Ann Nicholson Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Richard Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Bridlington Ecclesiastical parish: Bridlington Quay Christchurch Town: Bridlington Quay County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Bridlington Sub-registration district: Bridlington ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Richard Nicholson 42 Elizabeth Nicholson 33 George Nicholson 12 Mary Ann Nicholson 10 Frances Revena Nicholson 9 John Mainpize Nicholson 8 Alfred Nicholson 6 Margaret Hannah Nicholson 3 Richard Nicholson REgards Vera
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Frances
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19 Jun 2010 21:03 |
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Thank you alviegal, that is the match, so I shall just have to accept not finding the precise place!
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Frances
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19 Jun 2010 21:06 |
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Thanks Vera for a fairly different rendition - the enumerator's writing must be weird to get so many differences!
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alviegal
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19 Jun 2010 21:22 |
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Frances, looking at the image, it actually reads Bridlington Quay not Brant Broughton. Heaven knows how the transcriber made that mistake.
Brant Broughton is a small village in the North Kesteven district of Lincolnshire, England
Liz
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alviegal
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19 Jun 2010 21:40 |
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The 2 strange names from 1861.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about John Mainprize Nicholson Name: John Mainprize Nicholson Year of Registration: 1855 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Bridlington (1837-1937) County: Yorkshire - East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 245
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Frances Robina Nicholson Name: Frances Robina Nicholson Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Bridlington (1837-1937) County: Yorkshire - East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 235
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Frances
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19 Jun 2010 21:48 |
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Thanks for clearing up those oddities alviegal. The only puzzling place left is Georges birthplace, Mapperton. The only George Nicholson registered in Bridlington is George Meek Nicholson and that middle name occurs again but not to a member of this family. Any suggestions please?
Frances
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Vera
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19 Jun 2010 21:57 |
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Frances, The place on the 1851 looks like Mappleton to me ???
Regards Vera
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Vera
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19 Jun 2010 22:00 |
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Also checked the 1861...Mappleton...not sure if it is near Bridlington...will check Regards Vera
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GlitterBaby
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19 Jun 2010 22:00 |
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Nafferton is not far from Bridlington. Well nearer to Driffield
Which is what I think the 1861 reads as
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Frances
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19 Jun 2010 22:01 |
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Thanks Vera, there is a Mappleton on the coast just below Hornsea, maybe it's there.
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Vera
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19 Jun 2010 22:02 |
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Frances, Both are in the Holderness coast area....not sure if that helps !!!!!
Regards Vera
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Vera
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19 Jun 2010 22:05 |
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This covers Mappleton Births Jun 1849 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NICHOLSON George Skirlaugh 22 729
Regards Vera
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19 Jun 2010 22:07 |
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Think Vera is spot on with Mappleton having now looked at 1851 and 1861
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alviegal
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19 Jun 2010 22:14 |
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George in 1851. Definitely Mappleton.
1851 census transcription details for: Queen Street, Bridlington, Bridlington Quay National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2367 Folio: 222 Page: 18 Reg. District: Bridlington Sub District: Bridlington Parish: Bridlington Enum. District: 6G Ecclesiastical District: Christ Church City/Municipal Borough: Address: Queen Street, Bridlington, Bridlington Quay County: Yorkshire (East riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born NICHOLSON, Richard Head Married M 30 1821 Flour Dealer Hutton Cranswick Yorkshire NICHOLSON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 24 1827 Buime Yorkshire NICHOLSON, George Son M 1 1850 Mappleton Yorkshire
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Frances
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20 Jun 2010 09:13 |
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Now there's a nice start to the new day (for sleuthing ancestors). Thank you Vera, Maureen and alveigal. Taking Vera's first reference to Mappleton I found the George - Skirlaugh 1849 and that Skirlaugh District included Mappleton. Yesterday was for the wife but today is for the other half Robert. Again checking the single line '91 and '61 I found Robert in Bridlington, insisting that it is his place of birth! Just on the off chance I tried IGI and voila :-
ROBERT GRAY Christening: 15 DEC 1852 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire Father: JOHN GRAY Mother: MARY RACHEL 07 OCT 1840, RICHARD 05 MAR 1843, WILLIAM 24 JAN 1847
My question is does the 1861 census show any more children for this family please?
Frances
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alviegal
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20 Jun 2010 19:35 |
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No extra, I'm afraid.
1861 census transcription details for: Prince Street, Bridlington National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 3613 Folio: 6 Page: 5 Reg. District: Bridlington Sub District: 2 Bridlington Parish: Bridlington Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch City/Municipal Borough: Address: Prince Street, Bridlington County: Yorkshire (East Riding) Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born GRAY, Mary Wife Married F 48 1813 Sailors Wife Bridlington Yorkshire GRAY, Rochel Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 Bridlington Yorkshire GRAY, William Son M 14 1847 Scholar Bridlington Bury Yorkshire GRAY, Robert Son M 8 1853 Scholar Bridlington Bury Yorkshire
1871 census transcription details for: Harbour Side, Bridlington National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 4812 Folio: 14 Page: 20 Reg. District: Bridlington Sub District: Bridlington Parish: Bridlington Enum. District: 8 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Harbour Side, Bridlington County: Yorkshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born GRAY, John Head M 60 1811 Yorkshire coal merchant GRAY, Mary Wife F 58 1813 Yorkshire GRAY, Richard Son M 27 1844 Yorkshire mariner GRAY, Robert Son M 18 1853 Yorkshire grocer's assistant WEBB, John Son-In-Law M 34 1837 Somerset mariner WEBB, Rachel Daughter F 30 1841 Yorkshire
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21 Jun 2010 08:41 |
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Thank you alviegal, at least I am now sure I have the full score.
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