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Thank you so much Jax you have been a big help.

Here is the 1901 census for you I cant find Florence in 1911 there are too many need to know who her father was really

Name: Arthur Yates
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Kensal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: North West Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 334
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Yates 35
Ellen Yates 33
Arthur Yates 12
Emily Yates 11
Herbert Yates 6
Willie Yates 2
Elizabeth Yates 11 months

same here I have been trying to search a death too I know it wasnt before 2002 as that is when my father in law died and it was after then and I remember my hubby going to funeral in devon and that was before I moved to my present address in 2006. Her and her husband died together in a car crash. so they would both be there. I might be able to find out some more info on that though so not to worry.

If it is her I cannot see a death but it may have been after 2005

Yes this could be the one as I know hes name was Bert or know as.
thank you so much Jax you have been so helpful.

could this be Florence's marraige as they moved to Brentford at some point

Name: Florence E Yates
Spouse Surname: Gallimore
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1940
Registration district: Brentford
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1126
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Albert H Gallimore Yates Jul-Aug-Sep 1940 Brentford Middlesex

thank you so much Jax, I feel so stupid lol
That marriage does look correct too as Florence's middle name is Emily. Now we have got that bit correct maybe we might be able to find the children.

And the marriage I gave you for 1920 looks right too

here are the full details

Name: James William Yates
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Spouse Name: Florence Emily Butler
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1920
Parish: Holy Trinity, Kilburn
County: Middlesex
Borough: Brent
Father Name: Benjamin William Yates
Spouse Father Name: Arthur Butler

Hi all, it looks like I have the birth for William wrong too as I thought hes middle name was John but I have just looked at my late father in laws marriage cert and it says fathers name William James Yates, so Jax your 1911 census is possibly correct sorry for all the confusion.

Joanne

Hi Jax

True, as I am not sure if its the right marriage now as i cant find a spouse match I looked for William J Yates and when I tried to match it with Florence there was no Florence E Butler. I might have to start again, try and find the marriage for them, the 1 thing I am certain on is the son Robert Yates 1928-2002, I was told by family members the other children were Derek Duke???, Doreen and Florence, though I am not sure when they were born who is the oldest????

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1911 census - household transcription
Person: YATES, James William
Address: 3 Stuart Road Kilburn N W

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
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YATES, Benjamin William Head Married
23 years M 43 1868 Confectioners Carman Marylebone London VIEW
YATES, Ellen Wife Married F 42 1869 Marylebone London VIEW
YATES, Arthur Benjamin Son Single M 22 1889 Pumps Attendant Chelsea London VIEW
YATES, Emily Annie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Servant Chelsea London VIEW
YATES, Herbert Frederick Son Single M 16 1895 Van Boy Chelsea London VIEW
YATES, James William Son M 12 1899 School Chelsea London VIEW
YATES, Elizabeth Ellen Daughter F 10 1901 School Chelsea London VIEW
YATES, Charles Walter Son M 8 1903 School Marylebone London VIEW
YATES, Robert John Son M 6 1905 School Marylebone London VIEW
YATES, Gladys Eva Daughter F 2 1909 Marylebone London VIEW

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Name: William J Yates
Spouse Surname: Butler
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1925
Registration district: Eton
Registration county (inferred): Buckinghamshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 2543
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Violet M Butler Yates Oct-Nov-Dec 1925 Eton Buckinghamshire

I know its not impossible but if they both came from London why would they marry in Eton?

I found the marriage on genes reunited Sept 1925 Eton 5a 2543

not seeing any marriage between Yates and Butler except

this one

Name: Florence E Butler
Spouse Surname: Yates
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Registration district: Willesden
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 607
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

James W Yates Butler Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Willesden Middlesex

Hi Andrew,
I never thought to look earlier than 1925 as that is when William and Florence got married, Florence is a possibillity not sure about charles as I was told a Duke but I will keep him in mind. working on the birth of Florence I might see if I can find a marriage for her.

thank you
Joanne

Possible for missing ones?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Yates Florence E Butler Kensington 1a 234

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Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
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Yates Charles W Butler Kensington 1a 186


Andy

Hi
I am trying to find the family of William Yates born 1898 Edmonton he married a Florence Butler born 1900 Lambeth. I am mainly trying to search their children, I know of 3, 1 is my late father in law Robert Yates 1928 Kensington then I have a Doreen Yates born 1931 Kensington and a Derek Yates born 1941 Brentford, but I have been told there are 2 more a Florence who I know died in a car crash about 4-8 yrs ago I havent try searching for a death as I dont know her married name. also a Duke????

Any info would be appreciated including ancestors of William.

Joanne