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That's excellent news, Susan. I love it when a plan comes together!!!

I just happened to come across a tree on Ancestry that matches my detail's and its all looking good. Sue x

As i said, here goes then....
In the 1841 census Ninjalady provided for Mary Porter, i was both surprised and delighted to learn that Daniel and Christian Porter had a son John born 1829.
Reseaching him ... he was born John Auber Porter.
I found his marriage entry only to learn that ... "Wah! guess wot i found?"... He married Anne Maria Finch!...Who confused us in the 1851 census for David Porter, which stated she was Anne Maria Porter, daughter of David and Mary ... whereas in fact she was Mary's unmarried sister aged 17 who later went on to marry Davids brother John in 1856!
Now, this is the part where the "Temper Tantrum! set in, because as determined as i was not to ask any further help from you guys...........i went on a mission to find John and Anne together in later census's .... anyway to cut along story short, poor john died in 1858. two years after his marriage to Anne...Boo Hoo!
On a good note, i have managed to marry off Mary Porter and George Sims daughter Winifred i am on a roll, all thanks to you....thankyou so much. Sue x

And here's the rest of the family in Leith in 1841

1841 Scotland Census
about Mary Porter
Name: Mary Porter
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland

Civil parish: North Leith
County: Midlothian
Address: London Row
Parish Number: 692/1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Christian Porter 35
Alexander Porter 15
Daniel Porter 14
David Porter 14
John Porter 12
Mary Porter 1

Possibly Daniel Porter in 1841 - listed as a Merchant Seaman, which would fit with the occupation on David Porter's marriage certificate.

1841 Scotland Census
about Daniel Porter
Name: Daniel Porter
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male

Civil parish: North Leith
County: Midlothian
Occupation: Mer S
Parish Number: 692/1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Mackie 45
Wm Momion 30
Wm Fraser 50
Daniel Porter 45*****
Malcom M Callsen 45
Isabella Callsen 20
Robt Sinclair 37
Thos Suttie 30
Don Williamson 30
Wm Crencksbank 25
Agnes Black 23
Euphemia Lister 33

ok, here was my confusion over the 1861 census for Mary ...

Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Mattw Mariner 50
Hannah Mariner 28
Flora Mariner 14
John P Mariner 9
Mary Porter 21
1861 England Census
about Mary Porter
Name: Mary Porter
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Leith, Scotland

Civil parish: Wellclose
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitechapel St Mark
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Aldgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
born Leith Scotland!

Possible death for Mary??

Deaths Dec 1899 (>99%)
Sims Mary 59 St. Geo. East 1c 287

Please bare with me for a minute while i take that all in. Ninjalady, i have Daniels occupaton as.. Cellar Man! oooh, its looking good!

Mary and daughter Jane in 1891

1891 England Census
about Jane Sims
Name: Jane Sims
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: St George in The East, London, England

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Bostock Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Sims 46 ....widow...born Scotland...charwoman
Jane Sims 13

Mary's daughters Winifred and Jane in 1901

1901 England Census
about Michael Bazer
Name: Michael Bazer
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Bostock Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George in the East
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Winifred Sims 25 ...laundry maid
Jane Sims 22 ...laundry maid
Michael Bazer 35
Elena Bazer 25

Here we have a Mary Sims, born 1840 Leath, Scotland

1881 England Census
about Mary Sims
Name: Mary Sims
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Leath, Scotland

Civil parish: St George in The East
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Bostock St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Sims 62 ...engine driver....born Wiltshire
Mary Sims 41
Annie Sims 10
Winefried Sims 4
Jane Sims 2

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Mary Porter
Name: Mary Porter
Spouse Name: George Sims
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 May 1868
Parish: St George in the East
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Daniel Porter
Spouse Father Name: William Sims

Although the father is listed as Daniel Porter, the occupation for him is Cellarman and not mariner.

Groom was a widower, bride was a spinster.
His occupation - labourer.
Her address - Bostock Street

Hi SomersetGirl, and bless you for hanging in there for me. I too am stumped about the death of David. But at the end of the day, as sure as eggs are eggs, he's dead! So no point me popping off to the hospital with a bag of grapes and a bottle of lucozade! LOL!
So, as you are obviously a glutton for punishment (and i love you for it!)

Mary C Porter (sister of David) born 1841 Leith Scotland (how odd!)
1851 Census, with parents Daniel and Christian ...
1861 Census.... Mary is a servant with the Mariner family, aged 21. Res: Whitechapel, Middlesex.
and that is as far as i can go.......

Thankyou x

Boo! I know you are still out there!! Sue.

David Richardson Porter - Round 2!

I am pleased to announce that with all credit due to Ninjalady, Jonesey and especially SomersetGirl, i just about have this one in the bag!
Not only do i now know that the enumerator for the 1851 census was a heavy drinker with a screw loose and held a bitter resentment towrds the name Porter! but i also know that Maria/Marion Kate Porter was indeed the daughter of David and Mary.
I checked out Jonesey's 1861 census, which states David was a former Ship Steward (which he was in the 1851 census) it also states that he is a widower. I found a death entry for wife Mary in 1857 so that all ties in nicely.
As Anne Marie Porter is obviously not the daughter of David and Mary but possibly Marys sister, i am not too concerned about her.
To wrap this up, i am trying to find a death entry for david but am having no luck. If anyone can please find it, i would as always be very grateful.

Well thats the good news, the bad news is the fact that i have now moved on to Davids sister Mary and its not looking good!! And so, if this thread should happen to pop up later in the day, you might all want to do a runner!!

Thankyou everyone Sue x

Maria Kate Porter, daughter of David and Mary!!!! oh my goodness SomersetGirl, what a find! I am all boggled eyed over here.
Thankyou soo much for hanging in there with me.I hope that you understand that i need to switch off and regather my thoughts for tomorrow. It has been a very long day. Sue x

Ok. here is my last post of the evening because i really need to go and self harm!!!
A witness at David and Mary's wedding is ... Anne Maria Finch!
Which i assumed to be Mary's mother or sister. And i think it would be fair to say, that if David and Mary had a daughter, they might well have named her ... Anne Maria ... but the Anne Maria in the 1851 Census cannot possibly be their daughter....and so, if she is a Porter as it states in the Census, surely she must be Davids sister???
Will be back tomorrow, for many more hours of frustrating pleasure!! Sue x

Maybe if you look at it another way, perhaps David is Head of House.... with wife Mary. And David's sister Anne with her illlegitimate daughter Merion (Marion) who David claims to be his Grandaughter?? Sue

That really gave me a chuckle SomersetGirl! Sue.

Hi Michael, i looked and as Davids wifes maiden name is Finch, there's not another Finch in sight! Sue