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Thank you. I did a search on Ancestry. Punched in Lucy Tomlin, Mother Mary Squires and up came a record for her birth Jun 1851.

Regards
Maureen

Maureen

Yes,the CLACKs are a pain !

Good luck with the STEP/TOMLIN question.

Thanks Elizabeth. Those STEPS have me intrigued. I would love to know what they mean. I might email OXHS to see if they know. The James on your tree is not the same James as on my tree. I know from bitter experiance - I followed the wrong trail for ages. My James is the son of Edward Clack 1797 and Susannah Hathaway.
Have a good day.
Maureen

Maureen

I wonder if it would be worth e-mailing the BRO (details on their website) and asking if they could check the actual register for Lucy's baptism as you have the date they may be willing to do it

Off out to visit a NT property that used to be in the family-long ago !

Back later

Maureen

I might have guessed those pesky CLACKs would surface somewhere !!

James CLACK born 1825 is in my tree too !

He was the son of John CLACK and Ann CAMBREY/KIMBREY (Ann's father James was a brother of my 3 x gt grandfather)

Draycot Moor is/was part of Longworth

I feel it is your Lucy in 1851 and it is a error in transcription which gives James and not John as the father

I do not know what the STEP alias TOMLIN means but would not think it means step child-the Alfred baptised in 1811 is married and baptising children in 1837 and he is STEP alias TOMLIN
Both names appear in capitols

Odd-I wonder if anyone else has an opinion ?

Hi Elizabeth
The John Tomlin 1848 you refer to is on my tree but does STEP mean he was a stepson?

According to my records John was born in 1848 in Draycott Moor. He was chr 11 Jun 1848, Hinton, St Margaret of Antioch.

He married Rachel Clack 11 Mar 1872, Clanfield, St Stephen.

Rachel Clack born 1844, Clanfield, was the sister to James Clack, 1825.

James Clack married Lucy Tomlin, the sister of John 1848, 30 Sep 1871 Faringdon Berks England.

All this still leaves me unsure about Lucy's parents. In a census record she was recorded as being a housekeeper for her father. It sounds as if his wife had died leaving Lucy to help bring up her younger siblings. At least that is what I thought but your posting yesterday sounds as if the family were split between John & Mary & Charles & Ruth, with no sign of Lucy. Have I got that right? Does STEP mean stepchildren?

Once again thank you for your time.

Regards
Maureen

Maureen

Found her (I think !!)

Had another look at the transcrips for Hinton Waldrist in the daylight !

STEP alias TOMLIN
11 Jun 1848-John s John & Mary (missed him too)
20 Apr 1851-Lucy d JAMES & Mary (transcription error ? there are no other children for a James & Mary)

This looks like the previous generation but cannot see the marriage for this John & Mary but there is this baptism
05 Sept 1779-John Tomlin s John & Dinah

Marriage-03 August 1778 at Hinton Waldrist
John TOMALIN
Dinah STRAINGE
Wit=William Bowles/Sarah Strainge

Children of a John & Mary TOMLIN (no STEP !) baptised H/Waldrist
06 Sep 1805-Lucy
21 Aug 1809-Elizabeth
13 Jul 1811-Halford (? Alfred)
07 Aug 1814-George
13 Oct 1816-Jane
11 Jul 1819-John
29 Sep 1822-Charles

That's Brilliant! Thank's Elizabeth. Sorry I took so long to reply but I'm afraid bed called before I got your message.

It is strange there is no mention of Lucy b Jun 1851 in the baptisms. I wonder why that is? Perhaps she was baptised elsewhere.

It is Lucy I am most interested in as she is my great grandmother. I suppose I shall have to send for her birth certificate to be really sure that Mary Squires is her mother and not some other Mary.

Thanks a million Elizabeth.

Regards
Maureen

Maureen

Marriage-21 August 1846 at Longworth Berks
John THOMLIN-fa-b-lab-s John lab
Mary SQUIRES-fa-sp-d James lab
Wit=John Squires/Samuel Ward

Children of John & Mary baptised Hinton Waldrist Berks
The following all baptised as STEP alias TOMLINE
-- Jan 1847-James
10 Feb 1850-Esther
18 jul 1852- Emma

there is a Charles & Ruth baptising children also who are STEP alsia TOMLIN(E)

These are TOMLIN(E)
27 Apr 1854-Mary received into church born 5/4/1854
29 Jul 1856-George bn 02/7/1856
09 Aug 1858-Joseph bn 08/6/1858
08 Apr 1860-Mercy bn 23/2/60
10 Nov 1861-Emma bn 07/9/1861
10 May 1863-Mark bn 01/2/1863

Baptism at Longworth
22 Apr 1821-Mary d James & Hannah SQUIRES Southmoor

Buriels (Hinton Waldrist)
30 Oct 1887-Mary Tomlin 66
03 Dec 1898-John Tomlin 79

Thank you all. I appreciate it. That's me off to bed.

It looks likely that Mary Squires is the Mary married to John Tomlin in census records don't you think?

Thanks for your time.

Yes That's the one. I haven't been ignoring you. I've been responding to messages regarding Thomas Beckinsale.
Thank You

Births Mar 1850 (>99%)
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Tomlin Esther Faringdon 6 201


Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
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Tomlin Lucy Farringdon 6 197



Birth cert would confirm her name

Is this the marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
Atkins Ann Farringdon 6 271
Brooks Alfred Faringdon 6 271
Florey Ann Faringdon 6 271
Holliday Thomas Farringdon 6 271
Read Jane Farringdon 6 271
Ridge John Faringdon 6 271
Squires Mary Farringdon 6 271
Thomlin John Farringdon 6 271

I presume you are looking at this possible marriage

Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
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Atkins Ann Farringdon 6 271
Brooks Alfred Faringdon 6 271
Florey Ann Faringdon 6 271
Holliday Thomas Farringdon 6 271
Read Jane Farringdon 6 271
Ridge John Faringdon 6 271
Squires Mary Farringdon 6 271
Thomlin John Farringdon 6 271

John Tomlin b. 1819 Hinton Waldrist Berks.
Married Mary Sep 1846.
Mary was b. Abt 1821 and was from Draycott Moor Berks.
Was John's wife Mary Squires?