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Choccy & I cant find Henry P Jones any where in the 1901 census!
I am wondering if he could have died just before the census & his wife didn’t know about it, as Elizabeth is married in 1901 census,

7 The Polygon Clapham, (Holy Trinity) Wandsworth, London Ref RG 23/464 page 20, JONES Elizabeth Head *Married* age 24, cooking & charring, own account at Home, Oxon Oxford,
but as I don’t know where Henry Percy Jones was I am having trouble finding his death, the one Choccy found married Edith Sly,
Ann E

Hi Sylvia,
Thanks for that, have searched initials only & place of birth still no luck!
Ann E

people in institutions were sometimes listed only under their initials, with birth year and birth place

This was to protect their privacy


so try searching on birth year +/3 and birth place??


or possibly h p j, h j, p j




I suggested the birth year and place first because some of them were also registered without any entry in the "name" column





Oh ....... and isn't there a prison in Devon so that a death in the prison could have been registered in Plymouth????




sylvia

I cant find him in the 1901 census index, listed as Henry Percy Jones/ Henry P Jones/ Harry Percy Jones/ Harry P Jones, or just Harry/Henry Jones born Cowley /Oxfordshire / Oxford 1869 + - 3 years!!!
Ann E

Hi Choccy,
Thank you for that, I found a marriage for him
Marriages Mar 1901 JONES Henry Percy Plymouth to SLY Edith Ellen Plymouth 5b 414, this was also on someone’s family tree so I discounted that one, He may be listed as Just Henry/ Harry Jones making it more difficult.
Thanks Ann E

found this one - although he was born Harry Percy Jones -

about the right time and right age - not sure about Devon though



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Henry Percy Jones
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 30
District: Plymouth
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 158

Hi Choccy, thank you so much for looking, I will keep on looking for him, he had to die somewhere!,
I have searched every available site looking for him Newspaper & Old Bailey A-A etc.
Ann E

Sorry Ann, not finding him anywhere in 1901.

It's very strange that Banns were called three times and no sign of a marriage, even though she said she was a Widow in 1905.

Logically you would think he died between 1900 (before they had a chance to get married) and 1905 when his 'widow' re-married.

If he was in prison in 1901 and died, I'm not sure where his death might be registered.

Hi Lindsey,
The newspaper report didn’t say where 73 James Street was it must have Oxford, Choccy found Harry P Jones living there in 1881 & 1891 census, I found James Street on the map it was 3 or 4 streets from where Elizabeth was living, Where was Henry/Harry Percy Jones in 1901? Please Can anyone help.
AnnE

thanks Ann, it would have been better had you put all this at the beginning, I'm still puzzled as to where james st was ?

Thank you all very much,
That looks like the chap I am looking for, I have details of trial, & a report from the newspaper , stating that he was living at 73 James Street in April 1891,
Why I am asking about him is my great aunt Elizabeth Mary Higgins, born 1877 daughter of Alfred & Elizabeth Higgins, George Street, St Clements Oxford, Elizabeth’s sister said that she was 1st married to a man named Jones & that he died in prison, nothing more is known on him,
on her 2nd marriage certificate it states Elizabeth Mary Jones widow, She was married 28 July 1905 Registry Office Paddington, London.

In the 1901 census,7 The Polygon Clapham, (Holy Trinity) Wandsworth, London Ref RG 23/464 page 20
JONES Elizabeth Head Married age 24, cooking & charring, own account at Home, Oxon Oxford

She was at home with mum & dad in the 1891 census age 13 in George Street St Clements, Oxford,

I have been looking for this marriage for years with no luck, but have now found this

Entry in the Banns Book Clapham Parish Church 1900 No 63
Henry Percy Jones B & Elizabeth Mary Higgins S Both of this parish called 12 Aug, 19 Aug 26 Aug by R B Littlewood Rector, No Marriage Found!! Have looked at original page for 1900.
So is the Henry Percy Jones above the one I am looking for, no other found,

Please can any one find him in the 1901 census,

Ann E

Explanation of the crime:

Bailee (custodian) n. a person with whom some article is left, usually pursuant to a contract (called a "contract of bailment"), who is responsible for the safe return of the article to the owner when the contract is fulfilled.

Whosoever, being a bailee of any property, fraudulently takes, or converts, the same, or any part thereof, or any property into or for which it has been converted, or exchanged, to his or her own use, or the use of any person other than the owner thereof, although he or she does not break bulk, or otherwise determine the bailment, shall be deemed to be guilty of larceny and liable to be indicted for that offence.

Not sure what you are looking for Ann, as all I can see is 'Please can someone look up Henry Percy Jones in th'

It's a bit of a guessing game !


1881 -


BAUGHAN, Rebecca Head Widow F 56 1825 No Occupation
Hailey
Oxfordshire VIEW
BAUGHAN, Emma Mary Daughter Single F 29 1852 No Occupation
St Annes
Middlesex VIEW
BAUGHAN, Robt Joseph Son Single M 23 1858 College Servant Bedmaker
St Annes
Middlesex VIEW
BAUGHAN, Eliza Ann Daughter Single F 21 1860 Pupil Teacher
Highgate
Middlesex VIEW
JONES, Harry P C Adopted Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Cowley St John
Oxfordshire VIEW
KING, Florence Alice Boarder Single F 16 1865 Pupil Teacher
Thame
Oxfordshire VIEW
BAUGHAN, Maud Mary Grand Daughter Single F 1 1880
Cowley St John
Oxfordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1498 Folio:
29 Page:
52

Registration District:
Headington Sub District:
St Clement Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Oxford St Clement Municipal Borough:
Address:
73, James St, Oxford St Clement County:
Oxfordshire



Births Dec 1867 (>99%)
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Jones Harry Percy C Headington 3a 570

for reference -


302 BAUGHAN, Rebecca Head Widow F 67 1824 Lodging House Keeper
Witney
Oxfordshire
Coggs VIEW
302 BAUGHAN, Emma Daughter Single F 39 1852
Injured Spine From Childhood St Annes Soho
London VIEW
302 BAUGHAN, Eliza Daughter Single F 31 1860 Schoolmistress
Kentish Town
London VIEW
302 BAUGHAN, Maud M Granddaughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Oxfordshire
Cowley St John VIEW
302 ASHFIELD, Richard Brother In Law Widower M 66 1825
Witney
Oxfordshire VIEW
******302 JONES, Harry P Boarder Single M 22 1869 Agent For Life Assurance
Oxfordshire
Cowley St John VIEW
302 JOHNSON, Ethel R Boarder F 8 1883 Scholar
St Annes Soho
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1164 Folio:
111 Page:
42

Registration District:
Headington Sub District:
St Clement Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Cowley St John

Civil Parish:
Cowley Municipal Borough:
Oxford Address:
73, James Street, Cowley, Oxford County:
Oxfordshire

according to the image

The trial was held at

Trinity Quarter Sessions
City of Oxford

Henry was charged with "larceny as bailee"

He was sentenced to "Six calendar months with hard labour"


No other information given




BUT, could we assume that the town is Oxford??



Ann ... we need the information on the town/city/village

Nothing much else we can do until you return!




sylvia

hmm not much help here then?
Name: Henry Percy Jones
Date of Trial: 29 Jun 1891
Trial Year: 1891
Location of Trial: Oxfordshire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

where is James St.please ?

Please can someone look up Henry Percy Jones in the 1891 census for Oxford, he was living at 73 James Street in April that year, & was sentence to 6 month hard labour for larceny in June, I don’t know old he was.
Thank you.
Ann E