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4 Jun 2010 14:22 |
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New Update: Although Flick has posted the marriage of James's Jervis and Mary Martin I have not been able to find it myself so I have been unable to find Jame and Mary's fathers. However, I tried searching for the baptism of James with a father William and came up with this.
County Shropshire Place Market Drayton Church St Mary's BaptismDate 04 Nov 1798 Forename James FatherForename William MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname JERVIS Abode TYRLEY FileNumber 9694
I checked on the map and Market Drayton, Tyrley and Mucklestone are all very close together, though Mucklestone is just over the border in Staffordshire. Therefore I think it is safe to assume that this is him. I have also found an Ann (14/01/1796), Thomas (28/02/1796, family living in Almington), Jane (22/05/1791, living Almington, no mother given), Sarah (21/10/1793, living tyrley, no mother given) and a Thomas (05/04/1789, living almington, no mother given), all baptised in Market Drayton.
However, I have not been able to find a William Jervis, although on the 1861 census there is a William Jevis (aged 68) living three doors down from James Jervis, which seems like a large concidence, so I will have to keep researching this. Thanks for all your help so far. Aimmie
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Cynthia
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4 Jun 2010 13:57 |
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Hi Aimmie, I haven't gone into your research, but when in doubt, try looking for 'Jarvis' - 'Gervis' - 'Gerris' and 'Gervais'!!! I have the name Jervis in my tree and it has been down on both census and certificates as any of the above! Not an easy name to follow at times.. Happy hunting. Cx.
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3 Jun 2010 14:59 |
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Right, this is a summary of what I know so far Ancestor: Peter Mousley Jervis, baptised 15/04/1855 Mucklestone Staffordshire, Agricultural Labourer Siblings: Annie (bap 09/11/18340), Ellen (bap 16/07/1837), Betsy (bap 23/02/1840), William Martin (bap 11/12/1842), Fanny (uncertain birth/bap date), Mary (bap 17/01/1848), Catherine (bap 07/07/1850) and Alice (bap 19/11/1854) all in Muclestone Father: James Jervis, born c1801 Mucklestone, agricultural labourer Mother: Mary Martin, born c1812 MaerStaffordshire
On the 1851 census there is a William Jervis (aged 78, a retired farmer) living with James and Mary. I am assuming he is Jame's father but I cannot seem to find trace him before this census.
Also on the 1851 census a John Matin, aged 11, born Maer, is living with James and Mary Jervis. I am assuming he is a relation of Mary but I haven't yet been able to discover their exact relationship. In 1861 census he is living with a Joseph Bunn (46, agricultural labourer) and a Jane Bunn (45). I am assuming Jane is some relation to James, although again I have not been able to trace exactly what relation yet.
Also on the 1861 census, living 3 doors down from James and Mary Jervis, is a William Jervis (aged 66, Shoemaker), his wife Hannah (aged 64) and their children William (aged 28, bootmaker) and Ellen (aged 22, bootbinder) all born in staffordshire. I am assuming William is some relation to James Jervis but as I haven't yet traced Jame's parents I don't yet know what the exact relationship is.
Any help clearing up some of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks once again for all your time and help.
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WoodfortheTrees
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29 May 2010 15:59 |
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So was there a second Fanny being born as I have from the census fanny being born 1846 would they have taken 10 years to baptise her when others were already baptised or am I missing something
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Flick
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29 May 2010 15:58 |
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You're welcome.................
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29 May 2010 15:49 |
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Once again Flick thankyou, I was just checking my tree to see how this all fitted in and you had found more information for me .I don't know how you do it so quicckly but many thanks
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Flick
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29 May 2010 15:16 |
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Father: James , Mother: Mary Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C010262
1. ALICE JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 19 NOV 1854 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 2. MARY JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 JAN 1848 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 3. ANN JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 09 NOV 1834 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 4. KATE JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 07 JUL 1850 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 5. ELLEN JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 16 JUL 1837 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 6. WILLIAM MARTIN JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 11 DEC 1842 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 7. PETER JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 15 APR 1855 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 8. BETSEY JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 23 FEB 1840 Mucklestone, Stafford, England 9. FANNY JERVIS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 26 JUL 1857 Mucklestone, Stafford, England
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WoodfortheTrees
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29 May 2010 15:14 |
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Thankyou so much Flick I was obviously chacing the wrong family before but now you have put me on the right tracks I will now put this information in my tree Thanks once again
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Flick
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29 May 2010 15:11 |
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1851
Name: James Jervis Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Muxton, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Winnington Ecclesiastical parish: Winnington County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Registration district: Market Drayton Sub-registration district: Moreton Say ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Household Members: Name Age James Jervis 50 Mary Jervis 38 born MAER, Staffs Ann Jervis 16 Ellen Jervis 13 Betsy Jervis 11 William Jervis 8 Fanny Jervis 5 Mary Jervis 3 Catherine Jervis 10 Mo William Jervis 78 Emma Peg 16 William Crutchley 19 John Evans 15 John Martin 11 born Maer, Staffordshire, England. Servant - but probably related to Mary, I would have thought
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Flick
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29 May 2010 15:01 |
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JAMES JERVIS Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: MARY MARTIN Marriage: 24 NOV 1833 Mucklestone, Stafford, England
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Flick
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29 May 2010 14:59 |
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1841 census
Name: Mary Jervis Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Muckleston Hundred: North Pirehill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Market Drayton Sub-registration district: Moreton Say Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Jervis 40 Mary Jervis 25 Ann Jervis 6 Ellen Jervis 4 Betsy Jervis 1
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Flick
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29 May 2010 14:55 |
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1861 census
Name: Peter Jervis [Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Mucklestone, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Winnington County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Market Drayton Sub-registration district: Moreton Say ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age James Jervis 60 Mary Jervis 49 Annie Jervis 26 Betsy Jervis 21 William M Jervis 18 Fanny Jervis 15 Mary Jervis 13 Peter Jervis 8 Alice Jervis 6 William Jervis 25 Servant
ALL except wife born Mucklestone
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29 May 2010 14:52 |
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Posting 1871 for FULL family info
Name: Mary Jervis Age: 59 Estimated birth year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Malo, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Winnington County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Market Drayton Sub-registration district: Moreton Say ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Mary Jervis 59 Widow - Occ: Farmer William M Jervis 28 Fanny Jervis 25 Mary Jervis 23 Peter Mousley Jervis 18 Alice Jervis 16 George Hulme 15 Servant
All Jervis 'children' born Mucklestone
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29 May 2010 14:47 |
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O.K I will start again with this I know Peter Mousely Jervis born Mucklestone Staffordshire c1854 is definitely my ancestor and can be found living with mother Mary in 1871 census can not afford to buy certificates until next payday so was just trying to trace them on earlier censuses but have tried using spellings Jervis Jarvis and Jarves but can not find them so where did they go again all your help is very much appreciated
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WoodfortheTrees
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29 May 2010 10:42 |
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Thankyou very much Maddie yes that is my ancestor I had forgotten that I had only found him with his mother in 1871 but when I tried to trace her back I thought the Mary living with husband Joseph in 1851 wasthe correct one but maybe I am wrong I do tend to get carried away at times my daughter who ia at uni at the moment usually corrects me.but I will keep on looking .Thank you so much for your help
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Maddie
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29 May 2010 10:36 |
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hope this does not confuse you more but there is a Peter Mousley Jervis born c 1853 in Mucklestone Staffs living with mother Mary who was born 1812 c birth places not exactly the same 1871 census Maddie
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WoodfortheTrees
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29 May 2010 10:23 |
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Thank you very much Maddie I am going to study all this information as I am trying to research the ancestors of Peter Jervis born 1854 who I have on 1871 census with parents Joseph and Mary but I can not find in 1861 census I then found a Joseph and Mary right area and places of birth in 1851 census but not 1n 1841 so given the information I have received today I am a little confused so I will have to make sure I am tracing the right family but thankyou all very much for all your help
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Maddie
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29 May 2010 10:16 |
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Name: Eliza Jervis Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Acton Trussell, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Acton Trussell County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Penkridge Sub-registration district: Penkridge ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Jervis 73 Mary Jervis 56 Eliza Jervis 21 Cary Emma Jervis
is this a possible match Maddie
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Maddie
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29 May 2010 09:57 |
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Could this be them 1841 England Census about Joseph Jarves Name: Joseph Jarves Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Baswich Hundred: East Cuttlestone County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Penkridge Sub-registration district: Penkridge Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Jarves 45 Mary Jarves 35 Ann Jarves 10 Sarah Jarves 8 Joseph Jarves 5 Eliza Jarves 3 Maddie
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Flick
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29 May 2010 09:53 |
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Just for info
Acton Hill - where the children were born - is in Staffordshire
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