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hi again,checked all 8bs because thats st helens even though it says prescot any births that were rejestered in prescot that was born in st helens have the letters 8b in front of the number,this is the hardest brick wall iv ever hit,many people have tried to figuer it out for me ,but to no avail,
kind regards
june

In view of John being 19 in 1881 census, this cert might be worth checking

Births Sep 1861

ANDERS John Prescot 8b 480

hi,thanks but again john anders evades me (haha)
kind regards

Only marriage found between Anders and Deborah........

Marriages Jun 1847 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Anders Abraham Prescot 20 661
WOODWARD Deborah Prescot 20 661


Abraham Anders
Sex: M

Birth: 1819

Windle St Helen, Prescot, Lancashire, England


Parents
Father: William Anders
Mother: Margaret Twist


Marriage(s)
Spouse: Deborah Woodward
Marriage: 1847
Prescot, Lancashire, England
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Deaths Dec 1871

Anders Abraham - 46 - Prescott 8b 491

thanks micheal,i will try that,thanks for your help,this john anders has got a lot of people stumped,
kind regards
june

Anything's possible.

You may be able to check the birth cert of younger brother Thomas again stating that you only want it if the mother is Deborah.

Choices....
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Births Mar 1864
ANDERS Thomas Prescot 8b 597
ANDERS Thomas Prescot 8b 608

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Births Jun 1864
ANDERS Thomas Prescot 8b 610

hi is it possible he didnt have his birth rejestered
kind regards
june

hi thats a possability,also there is a john anders in whiston workhouse with a mother eliza from ireland but she is unmarried,this is when that john is 7
kind regards
june

Only way to find out who his father was would be to apply for the cert. stating that the mother was Deborah.

EDIT :
According to 1881 census John was 19 so the birth for 1864 won't be him. He would have been born c 1862.
He may well have been born before his parents married so
not registered as Anders anyway .

hi john junior was a miner in 1888
kind regards

Is this him in 1881?

Deborah ANDERS Head W Female 52 St Helens, Lancashire, England Charwoman
............John ANDERS Son U Male 19 St Helens, Lancashire, England Lab Iron
Thomas ANDERS Son Male 17 St Helens, Lancashire, England Glass Lab
Mary ANDERS Daur Female 11 St Helens, Lancashire, England Scholar


Dwelling Brook Street 34
Census Place Windle, Lancashire, England

hi but is the father,john,
kind regards

yeh - I missed that!!!!

There are lots of John Anders born St Helens but only this one in 1864

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864

ANDERS John - St Helens St Helens SH/63/26

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Same birth on Freebmd

Births Mar 1864

ANDERS John - Prescot 8b 614

hi anne john junior was born parr st helens
thank you

john junior married eliza carlidge in warrington in 1888

i have the marraige cert for john anders junior 1863/1864 and he names his father as john a labourer,but am unable to find john senior tried for birth certificate for john junior knowing he was born in st helens but unable to find a john anders with a john as father,this is a real puzzle can anyone help please
kind regards
june