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It would seem quite likely as they were not too orginal in naming then

I am amazed at what you and Christina have found out for me

Dont think I would have ever got this information myself

Rob

Considering his first name, I wouldn't be surprised if your Charles is Charles Knights' son anyway.

Ozi

1861 England Census
about Charles Knights
Name: Charles Knights
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Burston, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Eye
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub-registration district: Eye
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Knights 27...Journeyman Plumber & Glazier... Shelfanger, Norfolk
Mary Knights 26
Charles Knights 5
James Knights 3
Samuel Knights 1

All others born in Burston.

Hi Ozi - looking most interesting and possibly you have helped me nearly two

You help is really appreciated

Best regards

Rob

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1841 England Census
Name: Mary Can
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Upwell
Hundred: Clackclose
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Wisbech
Sub-registration district: Upwell
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Can 45 - labourer
Elizabeth Can 40
Catharine Can 14
Mary Can 7
Alice Can 4

All born in county.

Hi Ozi and many thanks - the Mary Cann is looking good for me

Best regards

Rob

Hi Christina - many thanks for clarifying this - you may have cracked it for me. This now looks very promising indeed

Best regards

Rob

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1851 England Census
Name: Mary Cann
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Gissing, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Pulham St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address: Pulham Lodge

Occupation: servant to a farmer

Condition as to marriage: Single

Registration district: Depwade
Sub-registration district: Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gooch 56
Hannah Gooch 21
Thomas Gooch 26
Thompson Catchpole 20
Mary Cann 18

Robert

The marriage I posted is for his mother (or both parents) not for him.

The mother of your Charles Cann (Mary) married a Charles Knights in 1859.

Hi Christina

I will look at this very closely - todate I thought their marriage was

Dec 1875 Forehoe 4b 452

Which was between Charles Cann and Elizabeth Wilson Rose

But stranger things have happened to me

Best regards

Rob

Hi Cathy

This is an interesting one - but I am pretty sure Elizabeth was born in Hingham Norfolk in 1851 as I have found her baptism and her marriage to Charles recorded in parish records

Looks like Knights was his step-father's name....or his mother married his father after the birth of her first two children.



Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
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>>>Cann Mary Depwade 4b 435
>>>>Knights Charles Depwade 4b 435
Peake Anna Depwade 4b 435
Self Thomas Depwade 4b 435

I wonder if his mother married twice??


1871 England Census
about Charles C Knights
Name: Charles C Knights
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary M
Gender: Male
Where born: Burston, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Shelfanger
Town: Shelfanger
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Guiltcross
Sub-registration district: Banham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Mary M Knights 34...Head...Widow...Baker & Grocer...Gissing, Norfolk
Charles C Knights 16...Son...Plumber & Glazier (Appren)...Burston
James C Knights 14...Burston
Thomas Knights 10
Maria Knights 7
Mary Ann Knights 4

Youngest 3 children born in Shelfanger.

Hi Christine

Interesting, Charles Cann Married Elizabeth in 1975, Hingham Norfolk

The birth place is correct, the trade is correct as a plumber - but the surname of Knights?

Best regards

Rob

Hi Cathy, thanks - the Charles Cann Age 14 is my Great Grandfather

Any thoughts on how we find Charles Cann b. 1856 parents?

Really appreciate your help

Rob

Is this him??? Apart from the surname all the other info matches

1881 England Census
about Charles E. Knights....Charles C Knights on the image.
Name: Charles E. Knights
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Burston, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Watton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Merton Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Plumber & Glazier

Registration district: Wayland
Sub-registration district: Watton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles E. Knights 26
Elizabeth Knights 27...Hingham, Norfolk
Charles C. Knights 3....Watton, Norfolk
Philip W. Ros 21 ....Rose on the image....Lodger...Unmarried...Shoemaker....Hingham, Norfolk..(Is he Elizabeth's brother?)

Name: Charles Cann
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Old Newton, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Old Newton
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address: Stow Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Porter

Registration district: Stow
Sub-registration district: Stowmarket
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Cann 25
Eliza Cann 21

For reference:

Name: Charles Cann
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Burston, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Watton
Ecclesiastical parish: Watton
Town: Watton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wayland
Sub-registration district: Watton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Cann 35
Elizabeth Cann 36
Charles Cann 14
William Cann 8
Beatrice Rose 5
Alfred Philips 24

I can find Charles Cann born 1856, Burston, Norfolk UK married to Elizabeth (Wilson Rose - born 1851 in Hingham Norfolk UK) in the 1891 census. He is my great great greatgrandfather and I believe that this information is correct. I cannot find him in any prior census - can anyone help me find his parents and any sibblings there may be.

Thanks Rob