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Thank you Victoria and Kim- you work late! (Or perhaps you are both in a different time zone!)
I didnt have the baptism but I found the 1911 census with Anna in Ealing which does look like it could be her.I didnt have the burial of Thomas senior so thankyou once again for that one. A great job from everyone !
Christine

no luck in 1901

but here is Thomas senior burial

Thomas Ryder
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 4 Jul 1892
Age: 76
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Parish: Saint John At Hackney
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex

Hi
Sculp means Sculptor

Kim

maybe Anna in 1911
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

TRIGG, Haddon Head Married
20 years M 54 1857 Shipbroker St Heliers Jersey Resident VIEW
TRIGG, Bessie Amelia Wife Married F 44 1867 Dorsetshire Symendsburry VIEW
JEVETT, Lilian Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Middisex Hounslow VIEW
RYDER, Anna Visitor Widow F 50 1861 Germany VIEW
AYRTON, Bertram Frank Visitor Single M 27 1884 Student Of Law B A Oxon Yorkshire Bradford VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6872 Reference:
RG14PN6872 RG78PN343A RD128 SD4 ED5 SN150

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Brentford Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Ealing

Address:
7 Creffield Road County:
Middlesex

Thomas Ryder
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 May 1858
Father's Name: Thomas Ryder MERCHANT
Mother's Name: Christina Geddes Ryder
Parish: St Philip, Dalston
Borough: Hackney
County: Middlesex

address Durham lodge corner of Queen's Road

Sorry- got called away on a Mums Taxi run! Just got back. I was thinking while driving may be the sculp was the enumerator thinking he was a sculptor because of the artist bit but then changed his mind!So all is decided -- a dramatic artist he was ! Just need to find him in 1901 now! The quest goes on! Many thanks

Dramatic looks right maybe now some sort of actor, maybe he said artist so enumerator thought sculptor or painter then crossed it out when corrected

Jax,

You are not convinced !! - I am also not 'quite' convinced !!

That's what it looks like to me but I do not understand the crossed out 'sculp' - which suggests 'sculpter' ?? - This does not add up.

What are your thoughts?

Dea x

I cant keep up with you all. Thank you so much. I saw the 'sculp' as well but cant work out what that means either!
Sue is right the enumerator has horrible hand writing- you would think they would have to have beautiful writing for that job!Many thanks Teeny

ummm yeah Dramatic anyway if you stare at it long enough

Wow everybody thankyou! Im beginning to think it is a D and Dea is right with 'Dramatic artist' considering he was a singing artist in 1881.
Thank you for the marriage, I didnt expect that ,it was a nice surprise as I havnt got his marriage. It looks right to me!!

Well I have studied the occupation for the last 20 mins and it looks like Dramatic artist to me and then Sculp has been wrote next to it.

The enumerator had horrible writing.

Someone has added 'Sculp' ..and crossed it through,

but could the other bit say Dramatic artist...?

Looks more like a B at the beginning, if you view each letter, but I've tried to interpret the whole note in order to make sense.

Gwyn

Sorry, can't read it, but is this his marriage? says both he and his father are 'Gentlemen' whilst Anna's father is a banker.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Ryder
Name: Thomas Ryder of 1 Oakfield Rd
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Spouse Name: Anna Marie Matilde Koch of Magdeburg, Germany
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Jun 1879
Parish: Christ Church, Clapton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Ryder
Spouse Father Name: Carl Julius Koch

Witnesses were Thomas Ryder and Christina Geddes Ryder.

Ist letter looks like a 'D' jax - look at the 'daughters' on the page ?

Dea x

Ist letter looks like a 'D' jax - look at the 'daughters' on the page ?

Dea x

No idea ......Is it a B or a S 1st letter ??

Hi Dea ,' living on own means 'is his father , its the Thomas underneath him I am trying to read! ie his son b1859. Hes down as Thomas R Ryder junr. Thanks for looking!

It says - living on own means !! - nothing exciting there then!!

Dea x

Sorry - that was his father - I think the son's occupation may say 'Dramatic Artist' ??

I am not 100% sure though.

Dea x

Can anyone help me decipher what it says on 1891 census for a Thomas Ryder b 1859 Dalston London. He is living at 6, Laura Place Hackney but I cant for the life of me work out his occupation. He is a' artist singing ' in 1881 and I cant find him in 1901. I found it easier to type in his father first-Thomas Ryder b1815 London.The transcript just says ?for his occupation but there is definitely something written down on the actual image. Would love to know if anyone has any ideas!! Thank you