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joseph joyner (joiner) parents

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gillypaul

gillypaul Report 11 May 2010 16:39

Hi,
I have a Joseph Joyner md to a Sarah Ludlow 1787 Childs Wickham.
Josephs parents could be either Thomas and Frances, with a Joseph baptised Westbury on Trym, Gloucester in Feb 1766.
Or Samuel and Sarah with a Joseph baptised Moreton in Marsh 15.2.1761.
Apart from their baptisms I can find no further details on either of these Josephs.
I am hoping someone out there may be able to find even a death in infancy for one of them, so that I can discount them from being my Joseph.
Joyner spelt either Joiner or Joyner.
Thanking all in advance for any help you can give me.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 May 2010 17:46

1881 - connection?

Joseph JOINER Head M Male 53 Moreton In The Marsh, Gloucester, England Farm Labourer
Mary JOINER Wife M Female 53 Maxstoke, Warwick, England Home Duties
John JOINER Son U Male 23 Coleshill, Warwick, England Railway Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling Lower High St E
Census Place Coleshill, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341729
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3052 / 38
Page Number 8

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 May 2010 17:47

Joseph Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1724 Westbury-On-Trym, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: James Joyner Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 May 2010 17:47

JOSEPH JOYNER Pedigree
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH BINT Family
Marriage: 01 AUG 1717 Westbury-On-Trym, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 11 May 2010 18:46

Hi,
Thanks for these, but sure not a match.

The Joseph with Mary, is the grandson of William, brother of Joseph I am trying to trace, Moreton in Marsh.

The Westbury on Trym Joseph, would be too old to be my Joseph.
Thanks anyway. Will keep checking threads in case anymore find.

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 12 Oct 2010 16:01

Am not sure if I have done this correctly, but hoped to reopen this thread, without starting another one.
I am still searching for the parents of a Joseph Joyner, that married Sarah Ludlow in Childs Wickham, Gloucester in 1787.
I have the marriage details , even the witnesses, but can not find details anywhere to confirm who Josephs parents were. They could be Thomas and Frances, or Samuel and Sarah, or someone else altogether. Josephs wife Sarah was a widow when they married, she was born c1760, so assuming Joseph about same age. Have searched for his birth 1755-1771, but have had no luck. Really hoping a clever person out there can help me.
I have details of their children, born 1787-1797, but it is pre 1787 information I am looking for, and hoping someone out there has access to. Thank you

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Oct 2010 21:27

Gill, you've done it the right way! Always best to keep the info in one place.

Did you get your info from IGI/Family Search?

I'm bumping this up hoping someone good with older records will revisit this for you.

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 13 Oct 2010 16:05

Thanks for bumping.
Info from Gloucester archives, also IGI family search, anc.com, pallots, free bmd.
Hoping someone with access to older records spots this. Not sure how else to find out Josephs father as not on his marriage record. Thanks

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 19 Oct 2010 16:12

nudges

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 Oct 2010 17:38

Gill, try this link from Victor on the Records board. He has access to many Gloucestershire records - you need to send him a pm.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1209353


Hope this helps. Cx.

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 22 Oct 2010 21:15

nudged

ann

ann Report 22 Oct 2010 21:27

Hi Gill,i have a William Joiner born 1859 in Worminghall Bucks?Not a million miles away Annie

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 23 Oct 2010 21:09

Hi Annie,
Have you any other family for your William.
I have Joyners/Joiners from Wormington, Gloucester in that time period. Also Worminghall is ringing bells.
Gill

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 29 Oct 2010 15:51

In case anyone else is checking this thread for leads on Joyners.
Victor was very kind, but could not find anything for me. He suggested I try Worcestershire. I contacted the history office there, again very helpful people, did a search for me, but no trace of my Joseph apart from his marriage record and after with children. Nothing at all on his parents. The mystery deepens and I am getting more frustrated at not being able to discover his parents.

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 9 Nov 2010 13:23

nudged

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 4 Dec 2010 15:39

nudging again with fingers crossed

gillypaul

gillypaul Report 29 Dec 2010 13:26

nudged again. Still stuck, can not confirm Josephs parentage. Some kind help needed.